Friends Quitting Rant

[Mat1215]

Heres a list of all the reasons my friends are quitting world 11 (some new to the game some not) and also what we together think could be better.

0.Rubber Band (lag)

1.Quests

Quests are luck based and way too powerful. 30k LP - 1k-10k EXP - 30%-150% Hunger Relief ... all that you can get many times a day ... and its not hard or fun.
Catch a frog and go see a rock named gikshkgj... I got many fun and hard things to do in Haven, why is the boring part the most rewarding ? I myself quest a lot and I am way too far ahead of my teammates its ridiculous and then i have to explain to them that the reason i have 150 more combat and stats then them is because i go talk to the trees and rocks -_-

Fixes: Quests should reward EXP and a Gild Rock everytime(cause yeah gild rocks arent that great). The Harder/Further the quest the better EXP and Rock you get. EXP can somewhat be transfered in LP with the cut curio time spell and Hunger Relief shouldnt be a quest reward it is way too damn strong and removes all the value of a good table and salt. oh and not up to 10k Exp... more like 3000 tops that way questing still is a way to improve when you have nothing better to do but isnt a must.

2.Credos

Nomad:

Nomad quests always wants you to cross the ocean to meet quest giver (this is Nomad not Sailor or W/e)

Ideas: {complete X quests from quest givers} {Travel X distance from hearthfire} {explore 3-6 different biomes} {spent x time in the mountains/swamps/forest}

Quarryman:

Visit a Cave level 5, Cave Level 4, Chip Stone, (most likely requires you to build a house and make a cellar to complete) Chip Marble
(spent 5 hours with many friends going over all the continent using roots extract 0 marble found )

Ideas: {add some OR... Mine or Chip X Marble... Chip X Marble, Quartz or Limestone ...} {maybe just increase the time it takes... Mine 300 Stones.. just make it less rng}

Gem Hunter:

first quest - study an Onyx ... am I ever gonna find one? if so when ? *Abandon quest* -30000lp get new quest - study a Diamond

Ideas: {remove any specific gemstone quests or just again add some OR ...study an Onyx or Diamond... to help remove some rng}

3.Tableware

Its now very weak... it used to be something very fun cause every 1Q or 1wear was worth it so you had to change the whole set almost every day but now i could go without a table and i wouldnt care...

Fixes: make tableware reduce satiation chance/effect or simply rebuff em up a bit

4.Hunger and Satiation

because of the fact that we want to keep our hunger to a high level and Satiation is now a b**ch we can barely eat at all compared to before but the game is already built
for us to easily produce many many food items so what are we to make of all that animal meat that comes with the leather that we need to make ? I have about 20 cupboards of sausage, meatpies, onion and livers etc etc ...


oh well i could go on but im getting tired even tho these are all complaints im actually a big fan of the game since forever ago (back in legacy) and i really just hope to help you guys improve the game with this... i feel like my 2 friends that quit today wouldnt have in early world 10 simply because credo feels like its something that you need to rush but is almost impossible to... and having to abandon quests in order to move forwards especially for a new player just feels like poor game design...

anyways thanks for reading gnight!

[Agame]

Rubberband is really funny if you can post it on youtube. For the watchers. For the player is not so funny unless you capture the game-play and share a good laugh with friends after that.

RNG in quests is so bad that I never ever heard this expression in any other game I ever played. Either no quests, either meaningful quests to kick in at certain points in your character development, but random quests? Random is the entire problem with quests. Random quest givers, random quests, random rewards. It simply does not make sense, like writing random letters.

Tables are another content that one can really ignore forever unless he has bots and then they can take full advantage of the simbel made by some main or specialized alt. For normal players it's useless 100%.

[MagicManICT]

The mission system in several games, MMOs included are random. They do have constraints and guidelines in rewards. Quests for credos are very unbalanced and many of us that have been here for a while have been saying so.

It's worth noting that credos are NOT meant as an early game mechanic. Rushing into at least a few of them will leave you stuck, and flipping quests won't do a bit of good because you aren't ready to start on it. Quarryman is hard enough without a well searched mining area.

because of the fact that we want to keep our hunger to a high level and Satiation is now a b**ch we can barely eat at all compared to before but the game is already built
for us to easily produce many many food items so what are we to make of all that animal meat that comes with the leather that we need to make ? I have about 20 cupboards of sausage, meatpies, onion and livers etc etc ...

So it sounds like you could actually eat at the 1x multiplier and still be able to get reasonable stat gains if it weren't for the satiation penalties?

[Vigilance]

tbh quarryman does give a lot of dumb bullshit. never saw "QUARRY"man as being a "lower cave levels" credo. miner certainly, but quarryman i disagree.

gem hunter is also a credo i'd imagine shouldnt be an "early on without any knowledge of gems in my area" type one.

symbel is in a phenomenally shitty place right now and thats what id agree with most in this post. character progression feels like ass.

[azrid]

So you have too many meat satiation foods?
You could always use high q meat to make mulch or use meat to make soap. Or use the rendered fat to cook.

[Vigilance]

as someone satiating literally 5 satiations daily (Offal, Vegetables, Fish, Meat, Sausages, occasionally Forage/Creepy Crawlies) to abysmal levels it still sucks quite a bit. a lot of these foods just outright satiate too much.

[azrid]

The chance part is bad.

[dageir]

What stats do the "top" people have now anyways?

[Orcling]

What stats do the "top" people have now anyways?

A lot less than last world, that i can tell you.

[vatas]

Hopefully Loftar goes through with the SSD upgrade on the server, I understand how lag can turn people off from the game.