New food that use unused ingredient

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New food that use unused ingredient

Postby redwolf340 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:32 am

i just love to cook in haven, going around to get ingredient asking myself what should i make next, but something just hit me in the head, there is a lot of stuff that are in, but barely use and I'm talking fruit, nut and berry.

i want to make a small place at my house to farm those, but they are useless, like having a row of berry tree, like orchards..... but the only thing you can do whit those are mostly pit baked stuff.

I'm looking in the wiki right now, "nut: use for Unbaked Nutjerky (+ or - 1 or 2 other thing from specific nut) " / "Berry: Fruit Sorbet, Unbaked Fishwrap, Unbaked Fruit Pie, Unbaked Fruitroast (+ or - 3 or 4 things) "/ "fruit : Fruit Sorbet, Unbaked Fruit Pie, Unbaked Fruitroast ( + or - 3 to 5 things whit apple having a lot)"

Right now the diet is mostly meat base, whit more than triple the use (kebab,sausages, 10+ recipe that i currently know (if you count fat usage, it use meat to make)), there is a big variety of nut, berry and fruit, but there only use right now is to "change" the FEP gain in a small amount of recipe, so most of the bushes and fruit tree are not even use for that purpose, they even most of the time give less plank and block than other tree because the others have nothing else to give, right now when i see 1 of my tree whit fruit I'm not even happy about it because its gonna give me a crap tonne of stuff i wont know what to do whit, eating a shit tonne of pit baked JUST to get rid of them is saddening me even more.

Please could you had some more recipe to use those, i would really like to get my future orchards to have a usage more important than just having a collection of all nut/berry/fruit for varying a bit on 3 to 4 recipes
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Re: New food that use unused ingredient

Postby Agame » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:41 am

Great idea.

I would like to add to it "sugar". Which could be extracted from any fruit (Though that is fructose, actually not glucose) and could be used in making fruit jam, fruit sirup etc.

Would it not be nice to have sweet fruit sirups to give you back exactly the energy they drain when they fill your thirst? Because sugars in real are all about energy. If you do not spend that energy fast enough, they do hurt.

Anyway, OP had a great idea, with or without my additions.

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Re: New food that use unused ingredient

Postby Imaru » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:50 am

A delightful idea! We have glass and metal nuggets, we could make jars of jam and other sweets, or pickles)
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Re: New food that use unused ingredient

Postby Sevenless » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:33 pm

I like the idea of jams/jellies made from fruit/berries. The drying concept was applied, imo, quite successfully to fish for making mid game foods out of them. Especially with the sausage nerf people have been investigating them and finding them quite useful (long run the relative Q of fish kills them as an endgame food atm). Jams would end up becoming late game food since tree quality will keep increasing.

I'm not super sure I want to see 70 new fruit recipes though. There's just too much variety to have unique foods for every fruit, although I could see adding a couple more. We already have 3 unused pancakes (too fiddly/expensive to make for what they provide at least last world, maybe the buff hit them nicely), candy apple, fruit sorbet, apple pie, and a generic fruit pie. You're right that this list is dwarfed by meat recipes, but we don't use a lot of the meat recipes either. The problem with fruit recipes tends to be bad stat distributions (combining combat stats with non-combat stats) and difficulty making them (fruit requires special setup and tree planting, the food really has to be worth the effort).
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Re: New food that use unused ingredient

Postby discospaceman » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:22 pm

Jams/Jellies could count as 'spices' on baked goods, along with butter.

+1.

I get that food recipes could become bloated but maybe all it needs is to be revisited for stat distribution by devs. A larger focus on a 'balanced' diet providing more FEP overall - like I think it already does - could be interesting.

Satiation should probably be looked at still. Kebab is something crazy like only 5% chance to satiate. With these stats it's hard to not just spam those forever rather than making pies.
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Re: New food that use unused ingredient

Postby Lunarius_Haberdash » Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:54 pm

Re: Sugar -> We have beets, they may not be sugar beets, but you can get sugar from them. Also we have honey and sap from Birch and Maple.
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Re: New food that use unused ingredient

Postby shubla » Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:58 pm

Jams have been suggested many times and should be added!
Its a good idea to have them act like spices when baking certain things.
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