Softcap on cheeseracks = (rack+tray)/2

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Softcap on cheeseracks = (rack+tray)/2

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sun May 19, 2019 10:31 am

It'll probably be less noticeable with higher qualities, but replacing every single cheese rack in your village every month or so once your industry has been significantly improved is a bit tedious.

Cheese itself, due to very high satiations/hunger, isn't very good compared to other fairly easily bulkable foods like autumn steak. Plus, it requires more long-term, and concerted effort by virtue of requiring animals, most of which serve no real purpose other than cheese.

I would suggest changing the softcap to be (rackQ+trayQ)/2, or even (rack+(tray*2))/3. This would still make it still occasionally required to replace your racks, but less frequently. Or, more accurately you'd have the option to replace your trays more frequently instead.
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Re: Softcap on cheeseracks = (rack+tray)/2

Postby Headchef » Sun May 19, 2019 11:03 am

I make a lot of cheese and don't mind either way, this would make it easier to get higher q and feel less urge to replace I guess.
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Re: Softcap on cheeseracks = (rack+tray)/2

Postby wonder-ass » Sun May 19, 2019 5:12 pm

+1 having to rebuild racks and the old racks becoming absolutely useless is a bad game mechanic.
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Re: Softcap on cheeseracks = (rack+tray)/2

Postby dageir » Sun May 19, 2019 5:38 pm

Racks should not influence quality at all. Is the rack even in contact with the cheese?
Trays however should not be able to be made of woods that taint the cheese.
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Re: Softcap on cheeseracks = (rack+tray)/2

Postby Granger » Sun May 19, 2019 6:19 pm

In case it's ment as a resource sink it would be better to decay the racks with each production cycle.
The quality of the rack affecting the cheese doesn't make sense.
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Re: Softcap on cheeseracks = (rack+tray)/2

Postby MooCow » Sun May 19, 2019 9:00 pm

Granger wrote:In case it's ment as a resource sink it would be better to decay the racks with each production cycle.
The quality of the rack affecting the cheese doesn't make sense.


I like this idea. Higher q gives you more uses, so you would naturally care about it. The process of destroying the racks is done for you, making it much less tedium. Finally if you don't care, you can just make shitty racks and still have good cheese
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Re: Softcap on cheeseracks = (rack+tray)/2

Postby wonder-ass » Sun May 19, 2019 10:20 pm

Granger wrote:In case it's ment as a resource sink it would be better to decay the racks with each production cycle.
The quality of the rack affecting the cheese doesn't make sense.


HAha YE lets add DECAY to TRELLIS im sure EVERYONE will love your IDEA
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Re: Softcap on cheeseracks = (rack+tray)/2

Postby terechgracz » Mon May 20, 2019 6:12 pm

wonder-ass wrote:
Granger wrote:In case it's ment as a resource sink it would be better to decay the racks with each production cycle.
The quality of the rack affecting the cheese doesn't make sense.


HAha YE lets add DECAY to TRELLIS im sure EVERYONE will love your IDEA


You don't need to have 1000 trellis, you can just play like causal and grow just 10 cucumbers.
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Re: Softcap on cheeseracks = (rack+tray)/2

Postby shubla » Mon May 20, 2019 8:24 pm

Quality of cheese racks mattering in the first place is stupid.
If devs want to add sinks for wood, there are definitely better ways...
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Re: Softcap on cheeseracks = (rack+tray)/2

Postby SnuggleSnail » Tue May 21, 2019 8:47 am

terechgracz wrote:
wonder-ass wrote:
Granger wrote:In case it's ment as a resource sink it would be better to decay the racks with each production cycle.
The quality of the rack affecting the cheese doesn't make sense.


HAha YE lets add DECAY to TRELLIS im sure EVERYONE will love your IDEA


You don't need to have 1000 trellis cheese racks, you can just play like causal and grow just 10 cucumbers.


The only way to stop a bad guy with 1,000 racks is a good guy with 1,001 racks. I won't let my home be invaded...

Only partially on topic, but lots of newer/non-faction players vastly overestimate the amount of botting that actually happens by "top tier" players not that I'm claiming to be one. I'm pretty confident once it becomes more necessary to have cheese in order to fight, building/moving cheese racks will be pretty quickly automated. I would compare it to making pepper.
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