Remake the game with a different engine

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Remake the game with a different engine

Postby kemil88 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:02 pm

I really love this game but it's unplayable on Java, I did think it was my PC that was bad, but then I did try with a high-end friend's PC and it was the same, lots of lag, audio skips, and stuff you know.

So, why don't you make the game on Unity or Unreal Engine? They are even free if you don't gain 100.000$ a year from the game (or at least, Unity is)... and since you have already all the assets you won't have to start from zero.
Java is not meant for videogames, so please, stop using it for videogames, the results are terrible (remember when Minecraft was on Java?)
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Re: Remake the game with a different engine

Postby strpk0 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:13 pm

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Anything made unoptimally in even the fastest of programming languages will run unoptimally. Java isn't the problem.
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Re: Remake the game with a different engine

Postby kemil88 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:20 pm

What I know is that every game made it java is always bad optimized, can't be a coincidence.
Also I did ask this because this and the older version are years old and always had these problems...
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Re: Remake the game with a different engine

Postby AntiBlitz » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:31 pm

minecraft was on java and ran completely fine.
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Re: Remake the game with a different engine

Postby shubla » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:52 pm

I think we should be thankful that loftar decided to use java, instead of making his own language and compiler from scratch!
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Re: Remake the game with a different engine

Postby Lyrroth » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:43 pm

shubla wrote:I think we should be thankful that loftar decided to use java, instead of making his own language and compiler from scratch!

even if loftar would use the worst possible language or software it would still be handled better and more properly than your life and client
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Re: Remake the game with a different engine

Postby azrid » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:57 pm

Loftar is about to fix all the problems you mentioned and you say he needs to trash it all?
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Re: Remake the game with a different engine

Postby borka » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:49 pm

You're aware that it's just the client running on Java and OGL ?!?

The "game engine" runs on the server (in good old C) ... and i'm not sure if it would run better in C++ or C# like Unreal engine or Unity do ...

btw. the source for the client is open ... grab it up and do one in a different language ... (i guess boshaws Haskell client code is still on github too) ... don't forget to make it x86 platform independent

Go for Rust and vulkano (waves at Lucas) then ...

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Re: Remake the game with a different engine

Postby loleznub » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:37 am

spaghetti code
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Re: Remake the game with a different engine

Postby kemil88 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:06 am

Guys I am a player, not a developer, and I know few things.

1) Minecraft did run terribly when it was on Java
2) This game ran terribly since when it was released, and it has ben YEARS, also it runs on Java

So yeah, what I know is that this game runs on java and that games that run in java have terrible performances.

If he will be able to make the game run smooth staying on Java, fine, can't wait to see it, but when will that happend?
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