Account Progress

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Account Progress

Postby kill5link » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:55 pm

Due to the nature of how HnH works, i.e. every year or 2 it resets worlds, it actually plays much more like a MOBA match than it does comparing to a theme-park or grind or sandbox MMORPG.

Everyone starts with a new char at lvl1, the playing field is somewhat even between players until at some point one side gets an advantage and snowballs with it into infinity, dominating all opposition with it until the match ends. From a progress perspective (Quality/Tech, pvp odds and player progress), playing Hafen is like playing a 1-year long League of Legends match.

What I'm saying is, it would befit HnH to have a system that lets players experience a progress in their accounts that is beyond the game world and actually persistent across worlds, unlike the mere footmarks they leave in a single world right now.

Achievements or medals would be an example. A tribute to the accomplishments of players in each world. The medals could be world-specific, e.g. "killed 90 trolls" w12 medal, then a "killed 90 trolls" w13 medal etc. Or they could accumulate over worlds, so "killed 90 trolls" for troll killer medal 3, then "killed 160 trolls" for troll killer medal 4. The former is how LoL does it, the latter I've seen in another game. I like the latter more personally because each medal progresses potentially infinitely, just like most things in HnH do.

An account level would be another. An attest to the loyalty and veterans of the game.

The icing on the cake would be earnable points that can be spent on some trivial nonsense in each following world. Like random pleb hats from a pleb lootbox unlike the non-pleb hats from spending. Then the levels could be gaining its worth from it too, by earning the player points for each levelup.


I feel like this is THE thing that HnH is missing. It's not like Salem where the world always stays and players have a reason to continuously play.
But if it had some ways in which players can progress even after a world ends, players would still continue for their account's sake for the next worlds even if they die or mess up in one world and even if the world is nearing its potential end at the end of each year, there would always be a reason to continue playing because they could still level up their account and earn medals.
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Re: Account Progress

Postby Granger » Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:15 pm

Would make more sense to remove the snowballing. Because why treat the symptoms when you can fix the root cause?
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Re: Account Progress

Postby Ants » Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:51 am

kill5link wrote:But if it had some ways in which players can progress even after a world ends

It's called hats, tokens and dev capes.

I do like the medals and achievements idea though. Maybe they could be represented as untradeable items stored in the hearthfire. You could take them out and put them on your wall to show off.
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Re: Account Progress

Postby vatas » Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:24 am

Ants wrote:I do like the medals and achievements idea though. Maybe they could be represented as untradeable items stored in the hearthfire. You could take them out and put them on your wall to show off.

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Re: Account Progress

Postby ctopolon4 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:28 am

ive done all credos on one character, i wanna medal wich gives me this credos after restart (dont wanna spend another year for this shit)
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Re: Account Progress

Postby shubla » Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:39 am

ctopolon4 wrote:ive done all credos on one character, i wanna medal wich gives me this credos after restart (dont wanna spend another year for this shit)

I want my dev cape back.
Next time I find a bug I'm going to abuse the hell out of it...
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Re: Account Progress

Postby vatas » Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:23 pm

ctopolon4 wrote:ive done all credos on one character, i wanna medal wich gives me this credos after restart (dont wanna spend another year for this shit)

I unironically wouldn't object to this being a thing, it just needs a system that you can't use it for X months after the reset to make it balanced. Or even better, it gives you the Credos gradually at reasonable pace.
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Re: Account Progress

Postby Ants » Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:30 pm

shubla wrote:
ctopolon4 wrote:ive done all credos on one character, i wanna medal wich gives me this credos after restart (dont wanna spend another year for this shit)

I want my dev cape back.
Next time I find a bug I'm going to abuse the hell out of it...

Buy one off of someone. The pink ones are pretty cheap because they don't look great, many people have them and you can't even wear them in public. Last world they were around 5 tokens, now they might be even cheaper lol.
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Re: Account Progress

Postby ctopolon4 » Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:41 pm

shubla wrote:Next time I find a bug I'm going to abuse the hell out of it...

no bug, all fair
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Re: Account Progress

Postby Lyrroth » Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:38 pm

no unless you want to give another fork and torch to people fighting for equality veterans vs noobs and how big advantage it gives on reset. regardless of time of unlock.
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