KO should lose you 5% or 10% of all your stats

[MightySheep]

People who fuck up in pvp fights and get KOd are back on their feet by the next day. They just get given new gear and heal their wounds and its like nothing even happened. Losing has become completely inconsequential. It sucks when you know there are people with better stats than you who have gotten KOd so many times yet they are still ahead because there is no consequences anymore.

I wouldnt even be opposed to perma death being removed from the game. It doesn't serve a purpose now. All the legit ways to perma die has been removed from the game and now the only things left are lame shit like client crashes or noobs who dont understand how drowning or porting home works.

If theres no consequences to fucking up then animals arent scary any more. Mining isnt scary. PvP is anticlimactic and dull. If failing isnt punishing then success isnt rewarding.

[Liss12]

People who fuck up in pvp fights and get KOd are back on their feet by the next day. They just get given new gear and heal their wounds and its like nothing even happened. Losing has become completely inconsequential. It sucks when you know there are people with better stats than you who have gotten KOd so many times yet they are still ahead because there is no consequences anymore.

I wouldnt even be opposed to perma death being removed from the game. It doesn't serve a purpose now. All the legit ways to perma die has been removed from the game and now the only things left are lame shit like client crashes or noobs who dont understand how drowning or porting home works.

If theres no consequences to fucking up then animals arent scary any more. Mining isnt scary. PvP is anticlimactic and dull. If failing isnt punishing then success isnt rewarding.

So you want swarms of all-stats-on-10 battle alts to be meta? Big factions and nolifers will have an edge anyway one way or another this is general problem of the games like h&h. The only people who will suffer from this are sprucecaps who get KO'd by badgers.

[rye130]

Its weird to me that fucking up against an animal is way more punishing than fucking up in pvp...

[Ozzy123]

Its weird to me that fucking up against an animal is way more punishing than fucking up in pvp...

this tbh

[maze]

Perma death is still easy for noobs or people under 300HP if they get waked by few players.

and if you change anything in any sorta way~ you'll just end up with people making fighter alts to get around shit mechanics.
Death or stat lose is shit mechanics in most cases.

IE 5 people fight 30 people and keep getting their shit kicked in but able to defend their base. if you add stat lost. then suddenly 5 people can't compete vs no lifers cuz now you're worried about your char again.

so~

what you really need is something to show off~ or "i won the fight"

Meteor was a good step in winning a fight.
We possibly need more shit like this.

[Vigilance]

agree with maze

dont punish loss, reward victory.

[shubla]

dont punish loss, reward victory.

But they are exactly the same things.

If you get reward by winning, you don't get it by losing, thus you get punished for losing.

[Glorthan]

But they are exactly the same things.

If you get reward by winning, you don't get it by losing, thus you get punished for losing.

It doesnt need to be negative sum or zero sum.

PvP fights in the open are negative sum (wear & wounds/death). meteor fights can be positive sum.

[MightySheep]

I got KOd in meteor fight, everyone busy fighting so I TP home with all my equipment, 3 hours later im chasing balders bra cairn bashers

oh and after 1 sleep im almost back to full HP

theres no consequences anymore, its lame as hell

[boshaw]

I got KOd in meteor fight, everyone busy fighting so I TP home with all my equipment, 3 hours later im chasing balders bra cairn bashers

oh and after 1 sleep im almost back to full HP

theres no consequences anymore, its lame as hell

Perhaps wounds need to be looked at and buffed specifically for PvP related ones to not be easily curable or slept off, and with it those wounds should always give some kind of major stat debuff. That way eventually you'll get them back, but the duration of the wound will make an impact on what you can do with that character while it has them.