Make the game better not bloated with shit!

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Make the game better not bloated with shit!

Postby GrimReaper » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:13 pm

I have been playing this game since world 1 and I love the game so don't mistake this thread as shit talking. I completely understand that the game is being developed by 2 people and certain things take a long time. My beef is that no matter how many times people attempt to supply the game with an idea it is either ignored or flamed. I don't imagine that they should implement every single idea since nowadays most of them come from Shubla and they are completely dumbass ideas. We all know that Jorb has a huge ass document filled with ideas and/or fixes that he wants to look at but that list just seems to get bigger and bigger every day without actually implementing some "GOOD" content. Prime example would include an idea I had about reworking silk that people actually liked but nothing ever came of it. I understand this is not my game but as a long time player I wanted to contribute like so many others but somehow all we keep getting is more damn mushrooms.

My Idea: Please implement some of these "Will Consider" ideas.
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Re: Make the game better not bloated with shit!

Postby Hasta » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:16 pm

That's a top shelf quality shit talking ^_^
- jorb works at his own pace.
- "will consider" items that are done being considered and were rejected are not reflected here on the forum. Probably most of them were considered and deemed unworthy, but who are we to request jorb's report on his considerations?
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Re: Make the game better not bloated with shit!

Postby ErdTod » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:32 pm

J&L's gamedesign and descisions are what makes me stay in this game for already 9 years, and you - even more. Not everything might be superb, there are definitely flaws, but look at what good games become when trying to adapt to "mass consumer". No wonder why vanilla WoW was such a success. So I'd prefer Jorb's "will consider" rather than democraticly voted "good ideas" implemented. That's my opinion on that matter.
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Re: Make the game better not bloated with shit!

Postby Baldarich » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:37 pm

+1 on this.

I think C&I should be entirely removed because most(all) ideas are retarded and coming from braindead people who obviously don't even play the game or are just trolling and shitposting.

How about we actually let jorb and loftar develop a game they want not the game we want instead of shitposting and coming up with useless ideas that make the game just more tedious and annoying for no reason, we really don't need bullshit and idiotic mechanics.

Rename Critique & Ideas to Critique & Feedback and let jorbtar develop their own game and just give them feedback and constructive criticism of a new mechanic they implemented and how it should maybe be improved or how we like it etc.
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Re: Make the game better not bloated with shit!

Postby xdragonlord18 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:51 am

Baldarich wrote:How about we actually let jorb and loftar develop a game they want not the game we want

Are you saying that Jorb and Loftar are so feeble as to not be able to make the game they want because other people have ideas about the game?
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Re: Make the game better not bloated with shit!

Postby VDZ » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:17 am

GrimReaper wrote:Prime example would include an idea I had about reworking silk that people actually liked but nothing ever came of it. I understand this is not my game but as a long time player I wanted to contribute like so many others but somehow all we keep getting is more damn mushrooms.


Some content is easier to develop than other content. In particular anything that's just a name, an image and a few numbers (e.g. new forageables or food items) should be trivial to develop technically if the system is built well, and the only real limiting factor is that stuff needs to add value design-wise. Reworking a mechanic takes a lot of design time and then requires far, far more work to implement than just adding an item or two.

Baldarich wrote:How about we actually let jorb and loftar develop a game they want not the game we want instead of shitposting and coming up with useless ideas that make the game just more tedious and annoying for no reason, we really don't need bullshit and idiotic mechanics.


Player feedback is important to understand the way players experience the game, and encouraging suggestions gives a lot of useful indirect feedback. Behind every non-shubla suggestion is an experience or set of experiences the player had that they were not satisfied with or felt did not achieve full potential. While suggestions are often shit, considering why the suggestion is made can reveal room for improvement.

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Baldarich wrote:How about we actually let jorb and loftar develop a game they want not the game we want

Are you saying that Jorb and Loftar are so feeble as to not be able to make the game they want because other people have ideas about the game?


Considering they rely financially on players paying for their game, yes, they are to some extent restricted in what they can and can't do. If Jorb wants winter to last 6 real-life months he's not going to be able to implement that idea without seriously risking his financial situation.
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Re: Make the game better not bloated with shit!

Postby xdragonlord18 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:47 am

VDZ wrote:
xdragonlord18 wrote:Are you saying that Jorb and Loftar are so feeble as to not be able to make the game they want because other people have ideas about the game?


Considering they rely financially on players paying for their game, yes, they are to some extent restricted in what they can and can't do. If Jorb wants winter to last 6 real-life months he's not going to be able to implement that idea without seriously risking his financial situation.


I didn't ask if they were restricted in what they can or can't do with the game.
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Re: Make the game better not bloated with shit!

Postby azrid » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:26 am

GrimReaper wrote:Prime example would include an idea I had about reworking silk that people actually liked but nothing ever came of it.

Your silk idea is something I can see coming from shubla too.
Not sure you should be calling other peoples ideas shit.
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Re: Make the game better not bloated with shit!

Postby Oddity » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:45 am

azrid wrote:
GrimReaper wrote:Prime example would include an idea I had about reworking silk that people actually liked but nothing ever came of it.

Your silk idea is something I can see coming from shubla too.
Not sure you should be calling other peoples ideas shit.

It's literally just "instead of cupboards have a dedicated building similar to cheese racks where the silkworms will eat leaves".
I don't really feel anything about it, but it's hardly even a "rework"
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Re: Make the game better not bloated with shit!

Postby Vigilance » Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:53 am

dude i had to pester jorb and bump my threads multiple times to ever have them considered/implemented

and one of the threads took like 25 pages of discussion to see any level of fruition

just accept the devz suck and bump your thread religiously tbh
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