Please balance "Raw Hide!"

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Please balance "Raw Hide!"

Postby kmarad » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:00 am

This magic basically gives a huge advantage to people on foot over people on horses.

In real life, if someone charges you with a horse when you are on foot, you will probably take quite a beating.
So of course that's a fictional game, but people on foot having that much advantage on people on horses is broken.

I mean this magic can basically be abused to perma-stun cavalry in an area, making horses just terrible to use for pvp.

A few ideas :
- Allow the rider to get off his horse while the horse is startled
- Have the duration last shorter, maybe like µ in combat? Also the more there are horses affected the shorter the duration should be?
- Make it a much more expensive magic to use.

Cavalry is a very cool thing in this game, but this Raw Hide! magic ruins it really. Please balance.
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Re: Please balance "Raw Hide!"

Postby SnuggleSnail » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:08 am

counter suggestion: increase ride hide range to be significantly larger than render distance so cutting people off with horses is less gay
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Re: Please balance "Raw Hide!"

Postby kmarad » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:18 am

SnuggleSnail wrote:counter suggestion: increase ride hide range to be significantly larger than render distance so cutting people off with horses is less gay


Yes and so it's much easier to kill people that are on horses...
Then devs should probably remove the "dismount rider" action. Because clearly it makes no sense to dismount a rider when you can perma stun him and destroy him nearly freely.
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Re: Please balance "Raw Hide!"

Postby noindyfikator » Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:59 am

Are you kidding?

I will write a disclaimer:

This guy in our environment is known as "Digging alt attacker or rather 2vs1 Horse fighter". People from his village camps our digging alts and are KO-ing them.

A brave fighter from his village attacked today our naked digging alt (they desperately need a shovel!). Our member (a new newbie player) used a raw hide and went back to base.
Now he is crying on forum that Raw Hide is OP because he couldn't beat a digging alt managed by a sprucecap with 0 stats while beign on horse.


Please xD
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Re: Please balance "Raw Hide!"

Postby Fostik » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:32 am

This magic is too cheap, and allows attacker cast it repeatedly, so you can even escape being on horse. Make it so that raw hide aggroes all horses on you on cast, because caster should pay for such op magic.
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Re: Please balance "Raw Hide!"

Postby noindyfikator » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:39 am

Fostik wrote:This magic is too cheap, and allows attacker cast it repeatedly, so you can even escape being on horse. Make it so that raw hide aggroes all horses on you on cast, because caster should pay for such op magic.


I want to see your response when you will be unable to run away from a gang of 5 man on horses vs you. Definitely you will be happy about that.

The purpose of horses in this game is not PvP. If you want to do PvP, get off of horse and fight or wait until winter when you will be able to attack someone from sled if you like trash fighting. It's simple
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Re: Please balance "Raw Hide!"

Postby Mr_Bober » Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:47 am

The only change I'd love to see is a shorter range.
You don't need to give people on horse an advantage in combat, but they should have an advantage when it comes to running away. Meaning u shouldn't be able to use raw hide as soon as they pop on your screen.
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Re: Please balance "Raw Hide!"

Postby Tamalak » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:56 pm

I think the whole point of 'raw hide' is to remove horses from PvP. They haven't balanced PvP for horseback so they're not allowing horses to be used for it.
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Re: Please balance "Raw Hide!"

Postby bmjclark » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:33 pm

Having played in world 8, i can honestly say the alternative was way worse.
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Re: Please balance "Raw Hide!"

Postby DDDsDD999 » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:36 pm

Threads where people that don't pvp try to suggest pvp changes should be insta-locked tbh.
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