Realm objects (irms and monos) shouldn't be claimable

Thoughts on the further development of Haven & Hearth? Feel free to opine!

Realm objects (irms and monos) shouldn't be claimable

Postby Enjoyment_2 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:11 am

The current situation, where one botter with thousand of alts claimed all the Monolith and Irminsuls with pclaims and palisaded it for the purposes of building fealty stones, making all those (already broken) cairn challenges absolutely useless is just plain dumb.
The game where you can't claim natural wonders, because of encouraging fights for them, but allows to easily claim more important resources - is just bad-designed. There can't be any reasons for it
Forbid realm objects claiming and erase all those alt-claims and palisades. And for god sake try to even pretend you're not playing on one side and make some punishments on those who exploit every aspect of your game.
User avatar
Enjoyment_2
 
Posts: 494
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:53 pm

Re: Realm objects (irms and monos) shouldn't be claimable

Postby DDDsDD999 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:35 am

Enjoyment_2 wrote:And for god sake try to even pretend you're not playing on one side and make some punishments on those who exploit every aspect of your game.

Your realm literally got a bail out because it was too stupid lmao
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Jorb, you're literally hitler.
User avatar
DDDsDD999
 
Posts: 4996
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:31 am

Re: Realm objects (irms and monos) shouldn't be claimable

Postby Enjoyment_2 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:39 am

DDDsDD999 wrote:
Enjoyment_2 wrote:And for god sake try to even pretend you're not playing on one side and make some punishments on those who exploit every aspect of your game.

Your realm literally got a bail out because it was too stupid lmao

This is the perfect example of how one side can behave while others can't... or maybe MagicManITC will come and say to "not derail the thread with personal offences?" or "Rules" exist only for user outside HH?
User avatar
Enjoyment_2
 
Posts: 494
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:53 pm

Re: Realm objects (irms and monos) shouldn't be claimable

Postby Headchef » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:07 pm

Even if you cannot cover claim over it directly, it just makes it even more valuable when you still make it inaccessible for others and still take it for yourself.

Just requires more effort or alternatively another step in the bot.
Cannot balance things like this when the mechanics themselves are crooked and on top of that bot is allowed too.

Not allowing the bot would then also make it so the person who gets to sit on welfare all day gets to win at something because they got infinite time.

Not sure which is less bad path, maybe part of the monolith irsul mechanic should rely on something else rather than fixed location claimed in a landscape.
User avatar
Headchef
 
Posts: 1097
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:27 pm

Re: Realm objects (irms and monos) shouldn't be claimable

Postby AtoB » Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:19 pm

Headchef wrote:Not allowing the bot would then also make it so the person who gets to sit on welfare all day gets to win at something because they got infinite time.

IMHO that wouldn't be the worst idea, they're fucked anyway so why not give them a little success in a game?

Or do you want them to be that bored that they start to learn RL stuff and come for your job?
AtoB
 
Posts: 146
Joined: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:38 am

Re: Realm objects (irms and monos) shouldn't be claimable

Postby Headchef » Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:48 pm

AtoB wrote:
Headchef wrote:Not allowing the bot would then also make it so the person who gets to sit on welfare all day gets to win at something because they got infinite time.

IMHO that wouldn't be the worst idea, they're fucked anyway so why not give them a little success in a game?

Or do you want them to be that bored that they start to learn RL stuff and come for your job?




this should preferably settled upon by a means of skill

like for example I would like it if there were some alternative meteor-fight that made it so it points us to a certain irminsul or whatever

then at certain time it becomes claimable by realm and let's say need to have 5 members of that realm minimum present in a radius around the tree for five minutes to grant that one to your realm.


rather than spam cairn bots from start and then forcing others to deal with retarded mechanics of challenging cairns and basicly nonsense that takes forever and its only fundament being ''haha my cairn bot got here first''

because that is current realm buff mechanic status.
the other building materials such as guano etc are long irrelevant.

can argue to what extent skill exists in haven but fights > mundane dumb claiming of shit
User avatar
Headchef
 
Posts: 1097
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:27 pm

Re: Realm objects (irms and monos) shouldn't be claimable

Postby AtoB » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:07 pm

The issue with the realm expanding like cancer could easily be solved would the devs be willing, there have been plenty of suggestions that would stop expansion from being a no-brainer and turn the ruled subjects into something that is more interesting than, apart from being a kind-of fuel for the ruling class, being irrelevant.
AtoB
 
Posts: 146
Joined: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:38 am


Return to Critique & Ideas

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest