World map is way too big

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Re: World map is way too big

Postby Apocoreo » Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:11 pm

Settle near a market if you want to meet people.
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Re: World map is way too big

Postby noindyfikator » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:05 pm

Markets are ready 1 month before there is no players in game at all
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Re: World map is way too big

Postby Nightdawg » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:08 pm

Are you saying the map too big for 200 players, or is it too big from the very beginning of the world?

Imo the west continent was indeed a little too large this world, but also maybe the fact that all of us spawned on the central continent pretty much made everything else be deserted while the central continent was a murderfest :D
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Re: World map is way too big

Postby Apocoreo » Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:40 pm

We had to leave the central continent for peace and quiet. If you want people, you want the center of the map, near a market. Doesn't matter when they're set up, a smaller map won't keep people from quitting, and you'll see more people.
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Re: World map is way too big

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:09 pm

In the Grand Experiments that are Haven & Hearth, starting map size has had little to do with how quickly a world population shrinks from what I can tell. Too big, and some people get bored and quit. Too small, and some people become frustrated with the amount of aggression they see and quit. I'll concede that statement is completely anecdotal. Unfortunately, there hasn't been a good way to analyze the data because along with the different map sizes, there have been different changes to the game that have had impacts on players at the same time.
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Re: World map is way too big

Postby Enjoyment_2 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:59 pm

MagicManICT wrote:I'll concede that statement is completely anecdotal.

well, you can't take seriously "Big world" when 1 man can easily take 3-4 sieges at the same time in different ends of the world. The issue isn't a size, but scaling (sadly, loftar took UI scaling as his love, not a world scaling)
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Re: World map is way too big

Postby Agrik » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:04 am

noindyfikator wrote:World map is way to big. I've been wandering for 6h and I haven't seen anyone.
When the world map is big and you want to find people you can move to a more populated area. It isn't impossibly hard, maybe except for a couple of first days.

On the other hand, it's impossible to move away from unwanted interaction if the world map is small.
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Re: World map is way too big

Postby iamahh » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:23 am

the land is small, the oceans are big

west continent was the best one to play alone

forget about markets this world, the best ones were destroyed, the ones left are probably related to the attackers
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Re: World map is way too big

Postby noindyfikator » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:49 am

When the world map is big and you want to find people you can move to a more populated area.


There are max 200 players on-line right now. There aren't populated areas..

Actual map size is 432 x 432.

432 x 432 = 186,624 map tiles.

Start of the world - 1k players
1 player per 186 map tiles.

Map for scale:
186 map tiles for scale

4 months after - 200 players
1 player per 933 map tiles.

Map for scale:
900 map tiles for scale
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Re: World map is way too big

Postby WowGain » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:55 am

noindyfikator wrote:snip



and?
i have no problem finding tons of people and i doubt that im alone in this. and when im not finding tons of people its incredibly easy to find abandoned bases all over the central continent.

i genuinely have no idea what this thread is even trying to accomplish.
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