Crime debuff harshening

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Crime debuff harshening

Postby shubla » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:57 am

If you have crime debuff you shouldn't be able to do any fast travel. For example:
Using charter stones,
Using trails,
Sailing with a knarr/snekkja,
Using boat/horse/kicksled.
These should all be tools that will be used for good not for fighting.
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Re: Crime debuff harshening

Postby noindyfikator » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:29 am

Requires combat mechanic changes.

Scenario:
You are alone in the forest. 2 players attack you - they leave assault scent. You have no chance to escape so you fight. You KO one -> you are red handed even if they first attacked you.

Considering your idea, a poor man being attacked by 2 or more players, defending himself, knocking out one of them will get this debuff even if he just wanted to live.
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Re: Crime debuff harshening

Postby shubla » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:45 am

noindyfikator wrote:Requires combat mechanic changes.

Scenario:
You are alone in the forest. 2 players attack you - they leave assault scent. You have no chance to escape so you fight. You KO one -> you are red handed even if they first attacked you.

Considering your idea, a poor man being attacked by 2 or more players, defending himself, knocking out one of them will get this debuff even if he just wanted to live.

Maybe the defender will not leave scents.
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Re: Crime debuff harshening

Postby SnuggleSnail » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:20 pm

I love that this thread is two people who don't even know how current mechanics work debating how mechanics should work lol
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Re: Crime debuff harshening

Postby Fostik » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:54 pm

shubla wrote:If you have crime debuff you shouldn't be able to do any fast travel. For example:
Using charter stones,
Using trails,
Sailing with a knarr/snekkja,
Using boat/horse/kicksled.
These should all be tools that will be used for good not for fighting.


This is too much. Game shouldn't give such big advantage to any player group, no matter offensive player or not.
It will only lead to other circumventings like bunkers, crime alts, etc.
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Re: Crime debuff harshening

Postby shubla » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:01 pm

Fostik wrote:
shubla wrote:If you have crime debuff you shouldn't be able to do any fast travel. For example:
Using charter stones,
Using trails,
Sailing with a knarr/snekkja,
Using boat/horse/kicksled.
These should all be tools that will be used for good not for fighting.


This is too much. Game shouldn't give such big advantage to any player group, no matter offensive player or not.
It will only lead to other circumventings like bunkers, crime alts, etc.

Of course the idea must be refined so it can't be abused.
Its not giving advantage to anyone, but making things more fair, as you can choose not to live within 15min trip from big scary villages.
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