Haven of Bots - Critique

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Haven of Bots - Critique

Postby noindyfikator » Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:23 am

What is that?...
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Is Haven & Hearth going to be factorio 2.0?
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Re: Haven of Bots - Critique

Postby Fostik » Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:47 am

noindyfikator wrote:Is Haven & Hearth going to be factorio 2.0?


Not yet, because in factorio objects can control other objects.
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Re: Haven of Bots - Critique

Postby yozzik111 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:17 am

Fostik wrote:Not yet, because in factorio objects can control other objects.


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Re: Haven of Bots - Critique

Postby AlfredoGaming33 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:31 am

Botting isnt against the rules
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Re: Haven of Bots - Critique

Postby Kolrim » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:34 am

Which I understand, but don't like. I've read the devs statement(s) on the subject. I understand the difficulty in policing bots, especially in a free game. Seeing as how this is s passion project more so than a game for profit, why get bogged down in the murky stinky depths of being bot police?

Still, I've never botted in a single game ever...

Maybe HnH will be the first.
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Re: Haven of Bots - Critique

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:06 am

Kolrim wrote:Still, I've never botted in a single game ever...

There's a bunch of scripts built into Amber and some of the other custom clients. These are bots, even if the simple "saving my sanity" type. The current mass farming and mining methods were originally scripts in custom clients, just ones jorb and/or loftar thought it would be best if everyone had access to.

There is a line between acceptable levels of botting, and unacceptable. I think a couple of examples of unacceptable have been laid out in the past. The first I can remember was world 4. It flat required a world restart it corrupted the character pool so badly. The latest was world 10 when a kingdom had their kingdom reset for abusing the experience mechanics. There have been a few others where botting may have made the situation worse than if the mechanic was exploited manually, but because of the use of the exploit, drastic measures of intervention were taken.
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Re: Haven of Bots - Critique

Postby MightySheep » Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:55 am

the reason they ban everyone from chat and fill it with bot spam is the same reason they go around bashing every fresh hermit house / claim, they are actively trying to kill the game

wouldnt be surprised if its not even a bot, just a chat macro, I mean these are the guys who cant get above 100 stats so I'm skeptical they got all these fancy bots
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Re: Haven of Bots - Critique

Postby insanechef » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:53 am

wiping every numbnuts' pepper bot is a lot different from a global chat spam bot that you cant ignore/remove
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Re: Haven of Bots - Critique

Postby BoxingRock » Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:08 pm

insanechef wrote:wiping every numbnuts' pepper bot is a lot different from a global chat spam bot that you cant ignore/remove



insanechef wrote:wiping every numbnuts' pepper bot is a lot different from a realm chat spam bot that you can tab out of or close with 1 simple click and never, ever have to look at or interact with in any way


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Re: Haven of Bots - Critique

Postby Massa » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:24 pm

Kolrim wrote:Which I understand, but don't like. I've read the devs statement(s) on the subject. I understand the difficulty in policing bots, especially in a free game. Seeing as how this is s passion project more so than a game for profit, why get bogged down in the murky stinky depths of being bot police?

Still, I've never botted in a single game ever...

Maybe HnH will be the first.

There is nothing wrong with botting in any MMO, regardless of the rules.

Especially Haven, given that it is a literal full time job.
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