bring back fear

[MightySheep]

Part of the mystique of legacy haven was being shit scared of everything because you feel like you just randomly be perma killed at any moment

With that in mind I propose adding random shit to the game but tell no one about it, just make treants randomly maul people to death or maybe when u jump down a cliff u randomly break your legs for no reason or maybe magpies instead of stealing loot will claw your eyeball out and leave u with a permanent wound

It's suppsoed to be a survival game thats the selling point which separates it from others, walking around in the wild shouldnt feel so leisurely, things like wolf packs are a cool example but thats 1 of the few scary things

[Rebs]

Totally agree.
Give me more ball shit impossibly hard survival pls.
Making aggro radius random would be a nice touch, being from Tiny radius to will agro across 1 grid map over sorta radius.
also, make animals have a chance to murder you again.


Will say I am playing with some new players right now and they are always getting knocked out..

but there is zero fear of other players right now..

[MagicManICT]

Making aggro radius random would be a nice touch, being from Tiny radius to will agro across 1 grid map over sorta radius.

I can't remember what world it was, 5 or 6, but I had a screenshot of effectively walking up to a bear, close enough you could say I was smacking it on the ass. It got lost with a hard drive crash some years ago, though.

also, make animals have a chance to murder you again.

Anything boar sized or stronger should have some chance at this now. I'm not sure it is where it is at in comparison to legacy, though.

[Sevenless]

>It's suppsoed to be a survival game thats the selling point which separates it from others

Name me one game that's properly like haven with or without survival. Haven doesn't have competitors because the niche it fills is too weird and extremely high effort for the amount of people it attracts. Survival is rarely true "survival". Most survival games are basically "You need to find food and water because we want you to feel immersed in this world" and then survival becomes trivial. The few games that are about actual survival, like UnReal World, are relegated to gaming fringes and certainly not a single one is multiplayer.

Beyond which: Dungeons and mines have plenty of fear in them until you vastly outscale it. Oceans too really.

[loftar]

Anything boar sized or stronger should have some chance at this now. I'm not sure it is where it is at in comparison to legacy, though.

I might have lost myself in what remake we are on now, but I'm fairly sure that it does work almost exactly like it did in Legacy, indeed. Apart from swimming and PvP kills, I don't think the current game is any more lenient with regards to things that can kill you than Legacy was. If anything, I quite like that there are these small things that can finish you off in situations in which you're already really badly hurt, like midges and sand fleas.

That's not to say that you're wrong in that there should be more lethal things, though. It's just a bit of a challenge to add lethal things that aren't just pure random.

[vatas]

Game Development: An Arrow to the Knee

[*] Animals no longer respect Knockout Protection, but rather have, as they used to in Legacy, a fixed chance of disengaging every time they hit you while you are knocked out. Wolves, Boars, Bears, Lynx, Orca, Sperm Whales, Boreworms, Cave Anglers, Trolls, Mammoths, are all more or less lethal. Dungeon Creatures were already plenty lethal on account of the general inability to fast travel out of dungeons, have for that reason not been made more lethal, and will generally disengage a knocked out Hearthling. Slimes are non-lethal, and should always disengage a knocked out player.

This sounds quite good, and I remember getting really worried about dying to bear after KO by one in this world, but presumably got really lucky when it only smacked me once, and then went it's way. If you think I got off too easy, smack meant additional 70hhp worth of wounds.