either make the claim instant or let us repair it

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either make the claim instant or let us repair it

Postby tripp » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:10 am

I should not have to literally stand there watching some polefancy bash my claim while not being able to repair it.
8 hours for a claim to dry and you just have to hope a grifer doesnt stop by?
its too stupid
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Re: either make the claim instant or let us repair it

Postby Burinn » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:14 am

tripp wrote:I should not have to literally stand there watching some polefancy bash my claim while not being able to repair it.
8 hours for a claim to dry and you just have to hope a grifer doesnt stop by?
its too stupid


I am a serial griefer.

Honestly, I never waste my time on fucking around with personal claims. I don't think most people do. If they do, it's short lived. The real grief game is fucking with people's palisades and mines. Sorry you're having a hard time my dude, hang in there. They'll lose interest. If they don't just move a bit. Good luck!
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Re: either make the claim instant or let us repair it

Postby lwdragon » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:40 am

Make some alts and suruond claim pole or build leantos around.
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Re: either make the claim instant or let us repair it

Postby MagicManICT » Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:15 am

lwdragon wrote:Make some alts and suruond claim pole or build leantos around.

This. Unfortunately, the fix to prevent certain exploits must be exploited to make it safe for players to settle the first few days.

To be honest with you, if you are having this problem now, you're likely to have bigger problems in a few days to the next week.
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Re: either make the claim instant or let us repair it

Postby loftar » Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:08 pm

One tip, at least, is to simply push them.
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Re: either make the claim instant or let us repair it

Postby mattgravy » Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:40 pm

tripp wrote:I should not have to literally stand there watching some polefancy bash my claim while not being able to repair it.
8 hours for a claim to dry and you just have to hope a grifer doesnt stop by?
its too stupid


I feel your pain, me and my mate got lucky so far this world.
The reason why it can be bashed is because people would claim siege machines when sieging walls or used to anyway

my tip would be build far away from water and or part way into a cave to protect your things (beware of bats)
check your surroundings for hearth fires and camps and try to be away from them.

Maybe if fresh claim bashing requires vandalism to break or another skill and or leaves scents or maybe even have it disallowed at the start of a world for the first few days.
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Re: either make the claim instant or let us repair it

Postby VDZ » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:23 pm

mattgravy wrote:The reason why it can be bashed is because people would claim siege machines when sieging walls or used to anyway

No, the reason it can be bashed is because if someone nearby objects to your claim to the land, you do not get to claim the land. You don't just get to claim land other people are also interested in and thus lock others out of interacting with that land.
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Re: either make the claim instant or let us repair it

Postby Tamalak » Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:50 pm

Mechanics make sense as is. If someone nearby is objecting to your claim to a land it shouldn't be your land unless you can claim it by force.
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Re: either make the claim instant or let us repair it

Postby cellites » Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:31 pm

+1 I think the best option for this would be to just remove the claim setting time for the first few days of the world. The reason there is a setting time to begin with was to keep people from spamming out claims but in the early days of the world that's not a problem.
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Re: either make the claim instant or let us repair it

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Apr 04, 2021 3:52 am

cellites wrote:I think the best option for this would be to just remove the claim setting time for the first few days of the world.

This is when claims are most abused to grief other players out of settling certain places. There is no real "fix" for this that doesn't require some sort of exploit or alt abuse to protect your stuff. And putting down extra claims is 4k LP each, and doesn't scale, same cost as yeomanry, so putting down extra claims with one character to grief someone out of an area is probable the longer the world runs. That's <13k LP to block a person out of expanding their claim after it dries.
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