Larger stockpiles

[Barbamaus]

Stockpiles should have the benefit of holding more items than a cupboard, with the disadvantage of being unable to see the quality of all items inside.

Some stockpiles already work that way, and are the most useful: blocks of wood, boards, stone, and so on... You only put them in cupboards if seeing their quality is a priority for you, otherwise you use stockpiles to fit more in a smaller space.

Unfortunately there are tons of stockpiles that don't work that way. They hold less items than a cupboard would, while keeping the original disadvantage of not letting you see the quality. All fruits stockpiles, cattails, bars of metal, petrified seashells, flowers and so on.

Someone could argue that stockpiles have the advantages of being placed anywhere, compared to cupboards. Unfortunately there's plenty of stockpiles that are still smaller than a chest (which is pretty cheap), holding 25 or 35 [1-slot] items only.

There are a few stockpiles that fall in between: fish is one of them; great for [3-slot] large fish, which holds the equivalent of 90 slots. Decent for [2-slot] medium fish, holding barely less than a cupboard. Awful for [1-slot] small fish, holding even less than what a chest would, in twice the floor space. Hides are another example of this.

That's why I think small stockpiles should be changed. Ideally, any stockpile should hold more of that specific item than it would fit in a cupboard. This would allow players to choose between convenience (seeing the quality by putting in a cupboard) and space saving (by using stockpiles). Also stockpiles look super good and I want to have a reason to use them!

[Archiplex]

metal stockpiles are awkward; not only is a single stockpile BIGGER than the space that 2 chests occupy, a single stockpile holds about half the bars a chest can hold

[Ysh]

Stockpiles for everything, infinite capacity.

[Sevenless]

The balance of items being stored in stockpiles vs cupboards seems pretty good to me. I don't think stockpiles need to be buffed. Some items are stockpilable but better stored in cupboards, and that's fine imo.

Stockpiles for everything, infinite capacity.

Also this

[Fierce_Deity]

Stockpiles have no cost to create, and cupboards and chest do. I'm all for having stockpiles having more capacity, but the reasons you both are using to justify it are pretty meh. A pile of 64+ apples in a 1x1 area sounds pretty dumb to me, there should be limits and a cupboard is not the minimum bar that should be set for stockpile size. There is a difference between something designed to store items(with shelves and shit) and just piling it up on the ground as high as you can.

Blocky things like bars of metal having larger stockpiles makes plenty of sense however, I'm all in favor of reasonable stockpile capacity adjustments, or other specific storage mediums. Mostly I don't buy into your suggestion that round things should stockpile more. Most veggie crops could certainly be piled higher, its super easy to stack carrots up for example. Stockpile size shouldn't become too unrealistic.


You focus too much on the inability to view item quality from a stockpile, the convivence of stockpiles is why their capacity should remain reasonable. Cupboards/other storage advantage isn't just to be able to see items qualities, its so you can put whatever the you want inside of them. More ways and options to store things aesthetically sounds better than piles on the ground to me. Barrels of apples or crates specifically for the storage of fruit/veggies.

[Archiplex]

pretending like small chests have a 'cost' to create is pretty funny. i suppose it does for the first 2 days of a world

[shubla]

I think that stockpile capacities should be more... consistent, for example there are bunch of 1x1 item stockpiles which all hold completely arbitrary amounts, its quite stupid.

But I agree with some replies that main advantage of stockpile is that building/carrying chests or such is not needed. Not holding more items like stated in OP.

[Archiplex]

I think that stockpile capacities should be more... consistent, for example there are bunch of 1x1 item stockpiles which all hold completely arbitrary amounts, its quite stupid.

But I agree with some replies that main advantage of stockpile is that building/carrying chests or such is not needed. Not holding more items like stated in OP.

yeah, i dont really want them all to be competitive with cupboards or whatever, but i really hate some of the absurdly bad ones, like metal for example. i like stockpiles because it makes sections of my base more thematic and identifiable (and dare i say, pretty)- but the terrible ones are annoying.

Most stockpiles that exist are mostly for bulk produced goods anyways, like coal, bones, entrails etc.

[Barbamaus]

Stockpiles for everything, infinite capacity.

Not what I'm saying.

Some items are stockpilable but better stored in cupboards, and that's fine imo.

There's already plenty of items that can't be stockpiled at all.

Stockpiles have no cost to create, and cupboards and chest do.

Seriously? The only "cost" of building cupboards is stamina, and as any other skill-less job most people already use alts for it.
Also this:

pretending like small chests have a 'cost' to create is pretty funny. i suppose it does for the first 2 days of a world

A pile of 64+ apples in a 1x1 area sounds pretty dumb to me, there should be limits and a cupboard is not the minimum bar that should be set for stockpile size. There is a difference between something designed to store items(with shelves and shit) and just piling it up on the ground as high as you can.

Furniture designed to hold items in it usually hold less stuff than a stockpile. Exactly because you put stuff inside in a certain way, in order to have easy access to every piece of it. Meanwhile in a stockpile you can usually fit more, but you can only get what's at the top (or on the outer layers).
That's why stockpiles should hold more than cupboards.
Don't assume stockpiles is just stuff randomly thrown on the ground. They are supposed to be placed with a certain logic (the board stockpile is the perfect visual representation of this), which saves space at the expense of being able to get a specific piece from it (and, in game, seeing its quality).

Cupboards/other storage advantage isn't just to be able to see items qualities, its so you can put whatever the you want inside of them.

And this is just another reason why stockpiles should hold more than a container. A container lets you put different items, see their quality, pick a specific one, AND makes it easy to move stuff around.
A stockpile's only advantage is the increased capacity...
[/quote] More ways and options to store things aesthetically sounds better than piles on the ground to me. Barrels of apples or crates specifically for the storage of fruit/veggies.[/quote]
Sounds good, but it's a different suggestion.

But I agree with some replies that main advantage of stockpile is that building/carrying chests or such is not needed.

I really don't get the issue with building them.. they are so cheap you can make them in bulk!

yeah, i dont really want them all to be competitive with cupboards [...]

Most stockpiles that exist are mostly for bulk produced goods anyways, like coal, bones, entrails etc.

There wouldn't be a competition, there would be a choice. Use the larger stockpile for storage, or use the more conveniente chests/cupboards for ease of access and sorting.

[Audiosmurf]

Barrels of apples or crates specifically for the storage of fruit/veggies.

Liftable vertically stackable sacks that only hold fruit/vegetables and are made out of cloth