Make KITO 40% HHP damage, and conc static HHP

[SnuggleSnail]

Whenever I'm attacking somebody I completely outclass I don't use non-weapon moves at all because they do lower HHP damage, so using them would make the enemy less likely to die. Whenever anybody is fighting somebody even vaguely competent they're basically forced to use KITO, meaning their chip damage is less effective, which contributes at least a bit to fighters dying less than regular plebs. The exact same argument was used for weapons not having variable HHP damage in world 11, and you guys seemed receptive to it.

Similarly, HHP damage always rounding down disproportionately makes lower stated/lower AC people, or people who have NFI what they're doing more likely to die relative to fighters. In a fight a lot of people's damage will be rounded down 25% HHP KITO chip. If somebody is trying to kill a pleb it will just be 2 or so cleaves for 40/60%. Making it round better by giving people a hidden HHP decimal or something could be cool.

I also feel like concussion should be a static 10%, which would realistically result in less people dying since the numbers line up RN so that you have to be e x t r e m e l y unlucky to die to non Mrage cleaves from full HHP under normal circumstances. I think static conc damage would be good regardless of changes to counteract it making death less likely, but I would personally prefer base weapon HHP damage be 50%, and Mrage weapon damage be 60% or 65% so that fighters are a bit more likely to die when they fuck up badly. It's kinda silly that I'm more spooked by potentially disconnecting, or fighting trolls than being chased by 20 Mrage chads.

[Ardennesss]

For those who might find it entertaining, snail died shortly after making this post.

[Archiplex]

how about don't make any micro changes to combat at all until the next inevitable combat rework

[SnuggleSnail]

ye, I died to a bugged cleave that did 100% of my MHP instead of 40% xd I wouldn't have died there if things were working as intended

TBH, I think the game would be more interesting if it would be normal to die when you fuck up that bad tho...

[Sevenless]

TBH, I think the game would be more interesting if it would be normal to die when you fuck up that bad tho...

We been there though, people just fought a lot less. Any mechanic that encourages frequent fights becomes an AFK fest as the strongest side camps it and everyone else just doesn't do anything about it. Hermit hunters had a blast though.

Condolences against the bug death. That sucks.

[Zampfeo]

Any mechanic that encourages frequent fights becomes an AFK fest as the strongest side camps it and everyone else just doesn't do anything about it.

This is sort of mutually exclusive to death mechanics, though. People avoid fights regardless. Factions are usually the only ones participating in real fights and that's more because of boredom than anything else. I think we could have both harsher death mechanics and more fights if there was anything worth fighting over. The attempts so far (thingwalls most recently) have been a terrible attempt at this.

[maze]

combat needs to be reworked, death needs to be reworked, wound needs to be reworked, armor needs to be reworked....everything needs to be reworked.