Improve Whale and Orca Leashing

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Improve Whale and Orca Leashing

Postby jordancoles » Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:12 am

I think that the way this was handled could definitely be made better. Leashed whales and orcas become detached from the boat due to slight turns and also somewhat randomly it feels like. There is no good way to know if you are tethered as well. Other than moving around to see if the whale/orca comes with you there is no good way of knowing when you are leashed or not.

It would be nice if these things just required a rope and showed a leashed icon like everything else. Also it would be nice if we could pull multiple orcas at once without them clipping each other and detaching. Orcas usually spawn in pods of 2-3 and each one requires its own trip unless you're able to find a nearby and suitable island to pull them onto (which is insanely specific to the point where if 1 pixel is on a water tile they cannot be butchered)

Please just make pulling these things similar/the same as other leashed creatures
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Re: Improve Whale and Orca Leashing

Postby Agrik » Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:25 pm

jordancoles wrote:it would be nice if we could pull multiple orcas
I wonder why it's not the other way round, orcas and whales pulling your boat. Or a kind of tug-of-war (with the animal being stronger, or perhaps depending on Q, but pulling in somewhat random directions).
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Re: Improve Whale and Orca Leashing

Postby WowGain » Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:58 pm

Agrik wrote:
jordancoles wrote:it would be nice if we could pull multiple orcas
I wonder why it's not the other way round, orcas and whales pulling your boat. Or a kind of tug-of-war (with the animal being stronger, or perhaps depending on Q, but pulling in somewhat random directions).


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Re: Improve Whale and Orca Leashing

Postby jordancoles » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:09 am

Agrik wrote:
jordancoles wrote:it would be nice if we could pull multiple orcas
I wonder why it's not the other way round, orcas and whales pulling your boat. Or a kind of tug-of-war (with the animal being stronger, or perhaps depending on Q, but pulling in somewhat random directions).

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Re: Improve Whale and Orca Leashing

Postby Sevenless » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:15 pm

jordancoles wrote:Image


I'd kinda prefer whaling to work like that though. Throw harpoon, get dragged around a bit while throwing more harpoons to whittle it's health down.

Lets face it, you can't really make a system more cancerous than current whalehunting anyway. Nerf whale as a food (frankly unrelated to this change or not, whale just needs to get nerfed), make whales non-aggressive and more common (so whaling parties are a thing, as opposed to bot scouting), make a little whaling "minigame".
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Re: Improve Whale and Orca Leashing

Postby MadNomad » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:35 pm

Sevenless wrote:Nerf whale as a food


but why?
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Re: Improve Whale and Orca Leashing

Postby Sevenless » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:45 pm

MadNomad wrote:
Sevenless wrote:Nerf whale as a food


but why?


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Re: Improve Whale and Orca Leashing

Postby Agrik » Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:50 pm

Sevenless wrote:get dragged around a bit
Now I think it could be possible for whale to (accidentally?) pull your boat into "deeper" ocean region, so you'd have to evaluate whether it worth to continue.
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Re: Improve Whale and Orca Leashing

Postby Sevenless » Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:38 pm

Agrik wrote:
Sevenless wrote:get dragged around a bit
Now I think it could be possible for whale to (accidentally?) pull your boat into "deeper" ocean region, so you'd have to evaluate whether it worth to continue.


Unless we have a specific "whaling" ship, good Q knarrs could probably cross the map in one trip without repairing. Snekkja are the main whaling ship atm just because whales smash boats, half the reasony they are literally mandatory to cheese.
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Re: Improve Whale and Orca Leashing

Postby Agrik » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:24 pm

WowGain wrote:They're dead when you have them tied to the boat
Hmm... I thought I mentioned such case in my post, but it seems I've edited it out later. The case of dragging dead ones wasn't that interesting.

Maybe I had wrong ideas from all that "leashing", "leashed" in the OP, especially
jordancoles wrote:if the whale/orca comes with you
jordancoles wrote:Please just make pulling these things similar/the same as other leashed creatures
I admit I've never tried to leash and drag dead animals on land. :)

Sevenless wrote:Unless we have a specific "whaling" ship, good Q knarrs could probably cross the map in one trip without repairing.
I suppose there is a difference between crossing the High Seas and circling inside for an unknown amount of time. Good knarrs can circle longer, but... shouldn't similarly "good Q" whales be healthier and stronger?
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