Hearth Fires and Rebirth

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Hearth Fires and Rebirth

Postby donwynne » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:36 am

Allow for the ability to destroy your own hearth fire regardless of strength.
And to inherit your previous characters stats without returning to their hearthfire/claim.
This way if you just need a new start in the world its available.

Recently ran into the unfortunate circumstance of being killed, and when I respawned at my base I found it to be griefed and I was locked in the cave I had been using for my base.
Due to there being no exit, and me not having a key alt I was unable to escape the confines of the mine. I tried to destroy my hearth fire, so I could just start anew in the world, but that wasn't an option either as "I was not strong enough"

Not sure why this is an issue at all, was pretty certain we could destroy our own hearth fires before, but maybe I am wrong.
Hopefully you can make it to where it cant be cheesed easily.
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Re: Hearth Fires and Rebirth

Postby shubla » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:42 am

I think it was removed because alts abused it?
Yea I agree it should be brought back because of scenarios like this. Probably some way to prevent alts from abusing it, like hearth burn is in the game already?
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Re: Hearth Fires and Rebirth

Postby vatas » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:42 am

https://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Wilderness_Beacon

When you inherit, you normally spawn at the ancestor's Hearth Fire but if you so choose, you can override this by doing the steps in "Spawning into Beacon" -section. This can be useful if you want to join a group located on the far side of the map, making manually traveling there unfeasible or outright impossible.
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Re: Hearth Fires and Rebirth

Postby vatas » Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:22 am

While what I posted above can be sued to avoid situation similar to OP, I support simply making Hearth Fires have 0 effective soak when their owner is breaking it.

I was also thinking of some sort of option to simply "forfeit" the fire but I'm worried it has to be either hidden away where people who need it can't find it, or it's shown in a way that people simply try it out without understanding what it does.*

*Similar situation happened in one WoW private server, someone grabbed all the free items from custom in-game thingy without realizing one of them was item that disabled your xp gain, meant only for "twinks."
No, it was not me, I just saw someone saying in world chat that they noticed not getting any xp anymore. They had done many quests between grabbing the twink item and noticing :(
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Re: Hearth Fires and Rebirth

Postby MadNomad » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:36 am

donwynne wrote:Due to there being no exit, and me not having a key alt I was unable to escape.


your own mistake and fault

you have prepared your bed, now lay in it

have a key alt next time, this is how this game is supposed to be played

just so you know, you can make new keys CHEAPLY WITH WOODEN BLOCKS to make a bunch of slave keys for all of your characters
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Re: Hearth Fires and Rebirth

Postby Liss12 » Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:36 pm

MadNomad wrote:
donwynne wrote:Due to there being no exit, and me not having a key alt I was unable to escape.


your own mistake and fault

you have prepared your bed, now lay in it

have a key alt next time, this is how this game is supposed to be played

just so you know, you can make new keys CHEAPLY WITH WOODEN BLOCKS to make a bunch of slave keys for all of your characters

You know this section of the forum is made exactly for discussing how game mechanics can be altered to benefit the game and players. Dont you think mandatory alting is a bit redarded?
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