Unobtrusive, low effort changes 4 early world

[SnuggleSnail]

• Take the FEPs AND hunger away from: butter porridge, roast hoppers, cattail stew, boiled odds, (edit: and mushroom spit) (solves a lot of the unfun meta gaming around hunger)
  
  
  
  
• Let me destroy these fucking things. Immovable natural objects dictate a silly amount of what we build for a game about player agency(caves too, if they're claimed haha)
  
  
  
  
• Yeet the travel weariness cost from: roads, hearthing, docking. It has no impact on the mid/late game, but makes parts of the early game cancer
  
  
  
• Revert the changes you guys made to vehicle rotating. You did this as a way to prevent unkillable scouts, but unkillable scouts 1) aren't a big deal, 2) are still insanely easy to make. You will get 100s of bug reports about people being confused why they can't move, or their knarr is perma stuck
  
  
  
  
• Lower the energy cost of labor in general, but especially terraforming/mining/cutting trees. Every world we just beacon/charter in and work to death hundreds of characters because, 1) doing it on a main fucks their hunger, 2) food in general is kinda expensive
  
  
  
• Buff the durability of early low quality armor drastically. I will often take my armor off to fight things because it's so expensive, which is just silly. a Q10 steel/leather chest piece has 100 durability, which is less than 1 good hit in PVP. I think this also contributes a lot to 100% of noobs not wearing any armor for ages. Sword buffs also make armor durability a lot more relevant in PVP.
  
  
  
  
• Make the level 1 (from overworld to natural cave level) not cost hard leather. Every world we end up not making our initial mineholes in our base because it's more efficient to start from a cave and Hleather is too expensive to waste.
  

[heeheega]

i find it funny that terraforming here just to spite the player

[Oddity]

Take the FEPs AND hunger away from: butter porridge, roast hoppers, cattail stew, boiled odds

I approve of this

[Ozzy123]

Good ideas, would actually let us do more stuff on mains, noone likes alts..

I would leave the travel weariness as it is, I think early world you should walk around and explore and not teleport through roads

[SnuggleSnail]

Good ideas, would actually let us do more stuff on mains, noone likes alts..

I would leave the travel weariness as it is, I think early world you should walk around and explore and not teleport through roads

An alternative I would be pretty happy with is it going down as if you're in a Q10 bed sleeping regardless of what you're doing. It feels like a punishment for playing the game that being logged in means your weariness doesn't regenerate.

also:

[DonVelD]

I agree with every single idea here, especially the armor & snekkja change, +1

[terechgracz]

Your ideas are very good. Seeing them added would be very nice and very cool.

[vatas]

+1 to all.

[VDZ]

• Make the level 1 (from overworld to natural cave level) not cost hard leather. Every world we end up not making our initial mineholes in our base because it's more efficient to start from a cave and Hleather is too expensive to waste.
  

Wouldn't this make it common for people to spam surface mineholes near bases to probe for underground security holes, especially if you also remove the leather requirement, as well as in general making cave layer 1 much, much more accessible than it is now? I think this change would have more consequences than adding just a bit of convenience. Perhaps the hleather requirement could be reduced (10 hleather is a LOT) but I don't think it should be removed entirely, it should at least remain a bit of an investment.

Every world we end up not making our initial mineholes in our base because it's more efficient to start from a cave

Which is arguably a good thing. Natural terrain being valuable gives more meaning to the choice of location to settle. This element also makes it more likely you'll stumble upon random ore veins (opened by other players) when exploring caves a bit later on; if surface mineholes were inexpensive everybody would just have their own private minehole, possibly entirely unconnected to a cave entrance but typically at least far away from one.

Agreed with hearthing and docking TW being unnecessary, though, and I also unequip armor to prevent unnecessary wear (especially gilded armor like the Bat Wing). The energy suggestions are IMO just bandaids for a problem that should be resolved by fixing the issue that hunger is so important that eating the wrong things is a devastating mistake.

[SnuggleSnail]

There is practically no situation in which I would choose to build a minehole of the suggested price over walk 1-2 minimaps away to find a cave and mine over