Truffles are retarded, and fixing them would be easy

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Truffles are retarded, and fixing them would be easy

Postby SnuggleSnail » Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:50 pm

Retarded percentile fep modifier bad.
Resource only being obtainable in meaningful quantities if heavily botted bad.
Retarded OP thing being basically a secret because the game never explains it and finding it is convoluted bad.
There are actually no redeeming qualities, it just makes the game worse.

It would be completely fine if it just converted a percentage (based on quality) of the total FEPs of the food it's applied to be will+2, and people would still use it since will for teleporting is kinda nice.
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Re: Truffles are retarded, and fixing them would be easy

Postby Nightdawg » Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:59 pm

Yes please.
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Re: Truffles are retarded, and fixing them would be easy

Postby Sevenless » Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:38 pm

Wouldn't it just be easier if they gave a flat +FEP (of their type) stat instead of %? That would stop them from being faction grade good and just be everyone grade good. Could probably remove them from the pool system if it was tuned ok.

Anything % based is gonna stay goofy.
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Re: Truffles are retarded, and fixing them would be easy

Postby SnuggleSnail » Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:43 pm

Flat +FEP would have the exact same problems, just scaled down a bit. Even if the FEPs a food give have a bit worse of a spread, having more FEPs overall usually makes things better because of the way satiations work.

Conversion to will is the best implementation truffles could have, IMO.
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Re: Truffles are retarded, and fixing them would be easy

Postby Sevenless » Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:48 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:Flat +FEP would have the exact same problems, just scaled down a bit. Even if the FEPs a food give have a bit worse of a spread, having more FEPs overall usually makes things better because of the way satiations work.

Conversion to will is the best implementation truffles could have, IMO.


That would effectively remove them from the game. No one would bother, especially not since black and white are +1s and the current meta is very heavily based around +2 foods. No one's found azure yet far as I know, so still not sure what it does.
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Re: Truffles are retarded, and fixing them would be easy

Postby SnuggleSnail » Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:58 pm

I would still want to use a lot of truffles if they converted FEPs to will2, and I imagine most people care about getting baseline will a lot because of the utility of teleporting.

You are wrong about the +1 thing as evidenced by how hard people went trying to put white truffles on everything when doing so was realistically impossible. Because they were OP due to the way satiations work. Because they effectively added a bunch of +1 FEPs.
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Re: Truffles are retarded, and fixing them would be easy

Postby WowGain » Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:59 pm

Sevenless wrote:No one's found azure yet far as I know, so still not sure what it does.

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Re: Truffles are retarded, and fixing them would be easy

Postby Sevenless » Sat Oct 22, 2022 2:52 pm

WowGain wrote:
Sevenless wrote:No one's found azure yet far as I know, so still not sure what it does.

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Azure exists in the game code, quest givers can boost the quality of it (personally verified). I have a theory as to how it's found, but the the truffle snout required has to be higher than white which is 45 I think? If you gain an optimal +5 snout per generation with herder, it's 7-8 months to get 100. I'd figure the snout requirement is 90ish.
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