Smaller map server

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Smaller map server

Postby noindyfikator » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:45 pm

Can we have server with smaller map for people who want to play this game as multiplayer???

Like 100 times smaller map would be nice, you know, meet other people in an MMO is fun

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Smaller map server

Postby Zentetsuken » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:55 pm

if you wanted to play multiplayer you should have spawned in to the game in the first 2 weeks and enjoyed the multiplayer experience the way it was intended to be enjoyed: competing with 10 naked people who will quit in a week for birch bark
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Re: Smaller map server

Postby SnuggleSnail » Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:58 am

If Jorbtar were consistent this actionable development suggestion would get HELd

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Re: Smaller map server

Postby noindyfikator » Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:26 am

Why did they lock your thread? 1.5h is still not enough to meet another person. I bet it's like 10-12h now

According to about page:
Haven & Hearth is a MMORPG (Massive Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game)


I would love to have server where actually I can have opportunity to meet other players every 5 seconds.

Imagine a situation. You go to forest to pick a few blueberries and you see another person also picking blueberries. It would be so fun.
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Re: Smaller map server

Postby Vigilance » Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:51 am

Zentetsuken wrote:if you wanted to play multiplayer you should have spawned in to the game in the first 2 weeks and enjoyed the multiplayer experience the way it was intended to be enjoyed: competing with 10 naked people who will quit in a week for birch bark

massa??? is that you???

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Re: Smaller map server

Postby noindyfikator » Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:23 am

I guess our developers think meeting other players in mmo game would be gift for factions and no one else. Sadly
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Mapgen and Whirlpools

Postby vatas » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:28 am

If I were in charge, this is the mapgen I would try:

  • One medium-to-large sized Spawn Continent roughly in the middle of map.
  • Several smaller continents in the world ocean.
  • Dozens of islands with some sort of coast terrain at the shoreline to prevent unfairly walling them in completely with no space for proper siege.
  • Whirlpool locations are made non-static (they appear and disappear like, for example, Dungeons) and entering one is guaranteed to send you to another continent.
  • Moving to smaller continent is meant for voluntary isolation and has intentional downsides: if current Fast Travel system is kept, restriction to not travel across Ocean is kept. Alternatively, if Boston-equivalent is implemented, you need to be on/travel to the Spawn Continent (to teleport there if it will be instance area, or it is simply located in Spawn Continent.)

Additional thoughts: Whirlpools could take inspiration from EVE Online wormholes, which aside on expiring once their timer runs out, can also collapse after enough mass passes through.
In Haven this would/could have following effects and I have no idea if they would make faction PvP better or worse:
    Limit how many people can use a Whirlpool before it disappears.
    Intentionally delete a Whirlpool by sending people (well, presumably alts) through it.

Maybe the least disruptive version of Whirlpool would be that it exists for a set period of time, during which anyone entering it will be teleported to random lake in continent static to that Whirlpool.

Also, in case there is confusion, "Whirlpool" is called "Swirling Vortex" in-game.
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Re: Smaller map server

Postby noindyfikator » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:40 am

Why u want separation from other players. Because of pvp? Make pvp optional for those who want so people won't need separation.

A lot of small hermit villages in 1-2 map grids, would be dope to play like it. You go fishing, you see another hermit fishing, you trade fish. Awesome
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Re: Smaller map server

Postby vatas » Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:58 am

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Re: Smaller map server

Postby noindyfikator » Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:02 pm

Traveling merchant, pog
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