Change sleds/skiis and 4th speed in winter

[ChildhoodObesity]

I'm sure this has been posted a lot but I didn't see any recent threads when searching. While they are a cool way to traverse the snow in winter, it makes it so that they are absolutely essential because if you're caught outside in winter without one you are basically just knocked out or dead. Anything that results in an insane speed advantage over other players is something that needs a counter rather than just also using it. A good fix for this (aside from completely removing them) is freezing them with hearth magic like raw hide. Ideally this and raw hide would be even cheaper than the current costs though in my opinion.

It's also quite dumb that you can endlessly sprint in the snow. It doesn't really make any logical sense that you'd be able to perfectly sprint in snow and in haven a permanent 4th speed landscape is terrible as you burn through a million liters of water.

TLDR: Remove skiis/sleds or add hearth magic to freeze them similarly to raw hide. Make it so snow terrain is 3rd speed and drains stamina similarly to forest terrain.

[Aerona]

Mobility being an overriding factor in combat is a problem regardless of the season or the footwear being worn. One general suggestion I have are attack options (especially one linked to the spear weapon) that do increased damage to an opponent moving at high speed. Someone who can stay still for an extended time while using ranged weapons should have a significant advantage over someone who's moving around, too. I understand that spears and ranged weapons are unpopular in PvP right now, but these types of counters could be a good start toward fixing that.

Swinging a weapon while skiing, specifically, should probably just end up with the skier down on the ground even if they don't get hit... Requiring at least one ski pole to be carried to remain stable would reasonably discourage skiing, since it'd be impossible to use two-handed weapons and one-handed ones wouldn't be usable with a shield. Skiing into combat definitely doesn't make sense as regular tactic, just as a nasty surprise for someone not expecting it.

[Nightdawg]

Make all snow behave like 3rd speed terrain rather than 4th speed terrain (maybe ice too, idk)
Add some hearth magic called "frost spikes" or something -> It freezes sleds and skis into place

Literally fixes winter pvp

+ It lets you hunt and forage normally, same way it goes with horses.

[talon00302]

Make all snow behave like 3rd speed terrain rather than 4th speed terrain (maybe ice too, idk)
Add some hearth magic called "frost spikes" or something -> It freezes sleds and skis into place

Literally fixes winter pvp

+ It lets you hunt and forage normally, same way it goes with horses.

I'd honestly just say the fix to sleds is making them slower.

[SnuggleSnail]

remove winter

[Aerona]

I'm pretty sure Surf & Sun is going to be by a different development team.

[HasseKebab]

It's really doesn't make any sense that you're sprinting on terrain which physically lets you do the opposite in real life. Freezing sleds with hearth magic is definitely a good idea.

[ChildhoodObesity]

remove winter

While that would be cool, it's very obvious this is something that would never even be considered by them. In cases like this we would have much more success convincing them to mitigate the bad effects of something (which they have been doing with Winter) than spamming them to scrap it completely.

[vatas]

remove winter

While that would be cool, it's very obvious this is something that would never even be considered by them. In cases like this we would have much more success convincing them to mitigate the bad effects of something (which they have been doing with Winter) than spamming them to scrap it completely.

[VDZ]

I do really like non-combat use of sleds, though. Hearth Magic to nerf the combat use of sleds/skis is probably the best way to fix it. How about Hearth Magic to instantly melt the snow around you (along with dismount/unequip timers for sleds and skis)? Would effectively accomplish the same thing, make more sense lore-wise than some magical ski sabotage, and be multi-functional (in case you just really want to clear the snow around your base or something).

Skiing into combat definitely doesn't make sense as regular tactic, just as a nasty surprise for someone not expecting it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ski_warfare