Remove bond studying, transfer claims like hats

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Remove bond studying, transfer claims like hats

Postby Sevenless » Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:19 pm

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I really don't see a reason why it should have a cost attached, but if it was needed could make it cost X% of total auth when transferring.
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Re: Remove bond studying, transfer claims like hats

Postby Massa » Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:34 am

Bonds being able to be taken and studied is clearly an intended interaction. It could be idiot proofed, but I think the interaction should stay. Maybe a person should be notified in some way that their claim is being taken.
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Re: Remove bond studying, transfer claims like hats

Postby Audiosmurf » Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:01 am

I think a ding notification on login for retards that their bond is being studied might be worthwhile
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Re: Remove bond studying, transfer claims like hats

Postby Sevenless » Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:04 am

Massa wrote:Bonds being able to be taken and studied is clearly an intended interaction. It could be idiot proofed, but I think the interaction should stay. Maybe a person should be notified in some way that their claim is being taken.


I'm aware it's intended, but I don't see the reason why enabling "stealing" of bonds should ever happen. I think it's a stupid intention.
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Re: Remove bond studying, transfer claims like hats

Postby Dawidio123 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:25 am

I mean ye, for an experienced player losing a bond is something that never will happen bcs they will just put it on an alt. The only point of this interaction is to fuck over people who don't use alt for it and don't know about bond recovery.
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Re: Remove bond studying, transfer claims like hats

Postby Massa » Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:31 am

Sevenless wrote:
Massa wrote:Bonds being able to be taken and studied is clearly an intended interaction. It could be idiot proofed, but I think the interaction should stay. Maybe a person should be notified in some way that their claim is being taken.


I'm aware it's intended, but I don't see the reason why enabling "stealing" of bonds should ever happen. I think it's a stupid intention.

Should we delete the rage skill too? Your shit gets jacked in this game.
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Re: Remove bond studying, transfer claims like hats

Postby maze » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:57 am

I'm in agreeance with this.
The only people who are dumb to let a claim be stolen, are noobs.

if the point of being able to grief people, then remove claim build minimums so that I can box in noobs too.
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Re: Remove bond studying, transfer claims like hats

Postby vatas » Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:58 am

Dawidio123 wrote:I mean ye, for an experienced player losing a bond is something that never will happen bcs they will just put it on an alt. The only point of this interaction is to fuck over people who don't use alt for it and don't know about bond recovery.

Massa wrote:Should we delete the rage skill too? Your shit gets jacked in this game.


Does "rage skill" have the equivalent of "just check if my bond was stolen, if so, renew it" -mechanic to make it completely irrelevant as long as you know to do that?
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Re: Remove bond studying, transfer claims like hats

Postby Massa » Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:48 pm

vatas wrote:
Dawidio123 wrote:I mean ye, for an experienced player losing a bond is something that never will happen bcs they will just put it on an alt. The only point of this interaction is to fuck over people who don't use alt for it and don't know about bond recovery.

Massa wrote:Should we delete the rage skill too? Your shit gets jacked in this game.


Does "rage skill" have the equivalent of "just check if my bond was stolen, if so, renew it" -mechanic to make it completely irrelevant as long as you know to do that?

Yes, your own combat abilities, to resist being attacked. Having your own moves and the ability to make choices is actually a direct 1:1 countermeasure built into the combat system by the devs.
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Re: Remove bond studying, transfer claims like hats

Postby vatas » Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:12 pm

Massa wrote:
vatas wrote:
Dawidio123 wrote:I mean ye, for an experienced player losing a bond is something that never will happen bcs they will just put it on an alt. The only point of this interaction is to fuck over people who don't use alt for it and don't know about bond recovery.

Massa wrote:Should we delete the rage skill too? Your shit gets jacked in this game.


Does "rage skill" have the equivalent of "just check if my bond was stolen, if so, renew it" -mechanic to make it completely irrelevant as long as you know to do that?

Yes, your own combat abilities, to resist being attacked. Having your own moves and the ability to make choices is actually a direct 1:1 countermeasure built into the combat system by the devs.

In this case, analogy to "just check if your bond was stolen, renew from totem if it was" would be "there's really well hidden option somewhere in UI to instantly drop PvP combat and TP to your HF."
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