Daily reminder that animal nodes encourage botting

[Nightdawg]

instead of preventing it.

Everyone should be able to go around and just kill animals, but right now everyone has scout bots that check the same high quality spots every 15-20 minutes.

[Dawidio123]

+1

[SnuggleSnail]

Replacing the need for a simple bot with the need for a complicated bot is not a positive change for balance or fun.

If the meta is botting highQ bones because you need a billion of them for industry make highQ bones common enough random nabs can farm them and sell them. Maybe put like 5-10 topQL bones IN THE CHESTS in every woof dungeon.

[noindyfikator]

Replacing the need for a simple bot with the need for a complicated bot is not a positive change for balance or fun.

If the meta is botting highQ bones because you need a billion of them for industry make highQ bones common enough random nabs can farm them and sell them. Maybe put like 5-10 topQL bones IN THE CHESTS in every woof dungeon.

surely random nabs do woof dungeons

[vatas]

Replacing the need for a simple bot with the need for a complicated bot is not a positive change for balance or fun.

If the meta is botting highQ bones because you need a billion of them for industry make highQ bones common enough random nabs can farm them and sell them. Maybe put like 5-10 topQL bones IN THE CHESTS in every woof dungeon.

surely random nabs do woof dungeons

I'm not sure how common knowledge this is, there's little barrier to leashing several aurochsen and setting them loose in a wolf den.

How easy is it to figure out? Dunno, but imho that is at least more intuitive than figuring "my claim bond was stolen, I need to renew it" that was fixed only two weeks ago.

Also granted that you do need a high quality tool and survival to extract hq bones from animal corpses.

[Dawidio123]

Also granted that you do need a high quality tool and survival to extract hq bones from animal corpses.

The argument snail gave is that the bones would be inside chests so there is no need for survi and hql tool. Although that idea doesn't really appeal to me personally but i do have some disdain for dungeons so I'm kinda biased.

[maze]

instead of preventing it.

Everyone should be able to go around and just kill animals, but right now everyone has scout bots that check the same high quality spots every 15-20 minutes.

I think this has been talked about in my group a few times. No matter what there is a bot for checking if there is bears around, looking for orcas, walking around on mountains for any q of mammoth.
So sure the roaming Q might solve one such problem but in realty it does not solve the core problem and just results in more spam of alts all over, more roads, and more hassle for the normal person.

For high Q nodes at least there is a place to contest, and possible will result in pvp.

Maybe we should have provinces that are a giant dungeon on world start, "tightly packed forest" that have hourly reset, to get in you need a key "blessing of the forest" what you can obtain everyday for a quest giver; item would be soul bound so it would turn to dust if someone else tries to pick it up. The dungeon will have multiply entrances that lead to a massive dungeon. At the center of the dungeon a curio "the forest heart", and other curios scattered around the forest. animals inside the dungeon in ever room have higher Quality then normal.
That way bots are less needed, we always know where high Q animals are. 2-3 provinces on every island could be this massive forest dungeon.
Other rare interesting things could be found in this dungeon and it would be a possible hotspot for some pvp.

[Ø]

What if the server checked the players base survival within a province and averaged it to then be used for the animal spawns quality level? Yes, this would cause alt spamming. People would either be forced to up their survival on all alts or for a contested area people would spam low survival alts to grief. This could be partially mitigated by checking for exp gained per week with a minimum required to be counted towards the average. It would potentially encourage neighboring provinces to contest each others zones or neighboring villages and hermits to keep their survival high to ensure animal quality continues to creep up.

[gunterman5]

I like Maze's idea but it's too much of a change and too much Content that would realistically be released.

[Nightdawg]

No matter what there is a bot for checking if there is bears around, looking for orcas, walking around on mountains for any q of mammoth.

At least if there's no quality nodes, I can just go around myself, instead of using one single alt to check the same spot 24/7 every 20 minutes.

lol