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Remove Truffles

Postby Dawidio123 » Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:43 pm

Okay we talked about whale meat, and we talked about cheese. Are they kinda unbalanced compared to all the other garbage foods the devs provide us? Yeah, kinda. But what if I tell you there is something that is stronger than both of these combined.
Introducing truffles, also known as literally better pepper that give no wound.

Oh no whale meat makes a food that gives 120 feps compared to all these shitty foods that give 50 at most? No worries lil bro, just apply a 40 quality truffle to it to multiply base feps by 1.84 and add 23 fep of Will +1, resulting in a food that gives 115 fep, almost as good, and you'll say "well uhm akshually it gives will so it's worse", you are right my dear friend, but consider the amount of foods that give 50 feps that you would never fucking touch bcs you need to eat 3 of them to fep, now you can make them as good as a whale steak. But wait, what if you applied those truffles ALSO to whale steaks, yes it's just as busted as you think.
Now, truffles are annoying af to gather bcs devs made them so, and guess what they are just as bottable as every other annoying and tedious task (i won't tell you how, be creative).

So, I assume we are all on the same page on truffles being fucking busted (literally better than pepper) and one of the worst tasks to do in hafen, and while some people might still be like "well akshually it's not that bad, you still need to gather food to use them on, long-term cheese is still better than 40ql truffles and i will ignore the notion of using both at once", etc. Here is the catch:
THEIR QUALITY CAN BE IMPROVED BY QUESTING
You thought 40 ql truffles are good? Think about 300 ql truffles, or 900 ql truffles, world reset is the limit. The only reason it's not being complained about is that people who play the game long-term are not competent enough to bot these things or they just don't brag about it.

Yes, i tricked you all, you thought this was going to be a kind of post that concludes in "add wound to truffles"? No, it's yet another remove quests improving quality because they break the game long-term (arguably could be abused as early as month 1 if someone "tryharded" enough...).
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Re: Remove Truffles

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Mon Jul 08, 2024 3:04 pm

Truffles are in fact busted.
Harvesting them is in fact balls.
You can in fact bot them.

However, all of the harm of the above is greatly limited by the fact that Truffles are regional pooled and the amount you can harvest probably doesn't justify setting up bot operations to *safely* harvest them over tons of different provinces.

You can unsafely do so, but whatever. That's fine.

Cheese, on the other hand, can be botted to infinite quantities in your own home.

3 month wipes basically fix most complex botting problems in Haven, btw, because it's questionable if it's worth setting up all the bots if you need to do it every 3 months. Even if it is worth, at least the gap between botters vs non botters is smaller. It also greatly reduces the imbalances created by questing.
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Re: Remove Truffles

Postby srt66 » Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:55 pm

I agree.
99% of people have not touched truffles and should be removed.
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Re: Remove Truffles

Postby Dawidio123 » Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:35 am

srt66 wrote:I agree.
99% of people have not touched truffles and should be removed.

I'd say even more than 99%, probably 99,9%
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Re: Remove Truffles

Postby fallout » Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:13 am

What is a truffle
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Re: Remove Truffles

Postby noindyfikator » Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:02 am

Strongly disagree. I enjoy going on a walk with pig, it was very important part of my gameplay every world.

Last few worlds I was very lucky - found 60+ql truffles in less than 1 day. I remember some mod on haven discord asked me to send screen shots of the truffle from game because he didn't believe we found such good quality
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Re: Remove Truffles

Postby Dawidio123 » Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:01 pm

noindyfikator wrote:Strongly disagree. I enjoy going on a walk with pig, it was very important part of my gameplay every world.

Last few worlds I was very lucky - found 60+ql truffles in less than 1 day. I remember some mod on haven discord asked me to send screen shots of the truffle from game because he didn't believe we found such good quality

Okay then nerf them like pepper.
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Re: Remove Truffles

Postby noindyfikator » Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:45 pm

Dawidio123 wrote:
noindyfikator wrote:Strongly disagree. I enjoy going on a walk with pig, it was very important part of my gameplay every world.

Last few worlds I was very lucky - found 60+ql truffles in less than 1 day. I remember some mod on haven discord asked me to send screen shots of the truffle from game because he didn't believe we found such good quality

Okay then nerf them like pepper.


I strongly agree for that one. They are a bit too op. Shoulda be nice addition instead of game changing item similarly like whale meat
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Re: Remove Truffles

Postby HasseKebab » Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:21 pm

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