More Dark Arts (real)

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More Dark Arts (real)

Postby Zentetsuken » Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:46 pm

We need more options for crime.

If we have a coin made from a press, allow us to counterfeit a copy using our own metal, and have the rank of the counterfeit based on some obscure stats.

When you try to pay with a counterfeit at a market stall, you roll the dice based on the rank of the coin. If you win, you can pay with it. If you lose, you automatically get evicted from the claim.
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Re: More Dark Arts (real)

Postby terechgracz » Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:47 pm

yes we need a way to scam people who use scam markets
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Re: More Dark Arts (real)

Postby Zentetsuken » Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:45 pm

I think there could be other areas for potential crime expansion as well.

We have things as trivial as rummaging, and we have the clear end of the spectrum with murder, so why not have some other interesting ways to break the law?
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Re: More Dark Arts (real)

Postby noindyfikator » Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:37 pm

I feel like adding more crime options could spice up the gameplay, lol. The idea of counterfeiting coins has me imagining a whole underworld of shady dealings and maybe even some riskier trades—like a little gamble every time you buy something.

Zentetsuken wrote:if you lose, you automatically get evicted from the claim.
That's a monkaw moment waiting to happen! Just imagine, one moment you're loading up on goods, the next you're getting yeeted from someone's claim for trying to pull a fast one. Would definitely make players think twice xD.
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Re: More Dark Arts (real)

Postby overtyped » Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:00 am

Oh yes, asbolustely. I can't wait for the naked alt army to teleport in and start buying up the stalls with their conterfeit coins. Since there is already a bot that checks every stall, I'm sure that bot can be easily repurposed to try to buy from each stall. I can see it now, Tthe waves of naked bots spawning in, grabbing fake coins, then teleporting to WB, only to be sent back to their claim outside the city to repeat the cycle until every stall is bought out. This will certainly lead to the idea of currency as we know it no longer being relevant.

Finally a solution to robbenduevils tyranny! By making all coins worthless, his stranglehold will wain, and peace will be restore! +1!
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Re: More Dark Arts (real)

Postby Mepp » Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:06 pm

Salem has Witchcraft, coin counterfeiting and lots of forbidden knowledge that you were supposed to figure out yourself (like cheesemaking)
There's probably a reason why many of these fun game mechanics are not in Haven. Maybe they don't want to copy too much from their previous game.
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Re: More Dark Arts (real)

Postby Zentetsuken » Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:18 pm

Mepp wrote:Salem has Witchcraft, coin counterfeiting and lots of forbidden knowledge that you were supposed to figure out yourself (like cheesemaking)
There's probably a reason why many of these fun game mechanics are not in Haven. Maybe they don't want to copy too much from their previous game.


witchcraft is a little far and probably too complex for haven, but I'd love to see some more of the darker aspects of salem make their way into haven in their own haven-themed way
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Re: More Dark Arts (real)

Postby noindyfikator » Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:03 pm

its not complex
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