the taming window should be more predictable

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the taming window should be more predictable

Postby MachineLegend » Sun Nov 10, 2024 11:25 pm

As a fully grown adult with a full-time job, having a relatively small 2-3 hours to play haven during the work week makes taming more or less completely unattainable. I think the limited/random time frame you have to tame an animal could be changed to make taming a bit more convenient and accessible. Either an animal should enter its "fight stance" exactly 24 hours after being hitched/re-hitched to a training post such that the tamer can adjust their schedule accordingly, OR the fight stance itself should last 24 hours without decreasing the animal's progress such that the tamer can reasonably be expected to be able to domesticate the animal.

I do not feel that the randomness in the current taming process adds much of anything other than making animal husbandry much more difficult to access for people with limited time to play. If anyone feels differently, and believes that the random time frames for animal taming is important to maintaining some sort of balance, then perhaps there could be two separate types of hitch posts, one that allows the tamer to rapidly domesticate an animal with the current randomness, and one that grants a slower domestication rate with a greater emphasis on predictability.

I'm open to debate but I feel that removing RNG from the taming process would be almost completely uncontroversial.
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Re: the taming window should be more predictable

Postby RetroWaffles » Sun Nov 10, 2024 11:27 pm

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Re: the taming window should be more predictable

Postby Pac » Sun Nov 10, 2024 11:28 pm

some sort of predictable per rl hour system might save the headache
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Re: the taming window should be more predictable

Postby Sevenless » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:32 am

taming window opens 20hrs after you hitch
taming progress no longer decreases while the animal sits in the taming window
animals sitting in the taming window for 48hrs despawn completely.
adjust the variation in tame % as needed to account for no more lost taming % via waiting
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Re: the taming window should be more predictable

Postby MachineLegend » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:55 am

Sevenless wrote:taming window opens 20hrs after you hitch
taming progress no longer decreases while the animal sits in the taming window
animals sitting in the taming window for 48hrs despawn completely.
adjust the variation in tame % as needed to account for no more lost taming % via waiting


Graceful. I'm not even totally convinced there should be an adjustment to not losing taming via waiting, but it would certainly be a change in the right direction.
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Re: the taming window should be more predictable

Postby Sevenless » Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:01 am

It doesn't add anything to the experience other than slowing down the taming process for most players. You can adjust that by reducing the amount of tame progress per fight downwards slightly.

Cheese is a perfect example. Things "going bad" when they involve significant waiting to process was removed and that's been perfect.
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Re: the taming window should be more predictable

Postby MachineLegend » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:40 am

Oh sorry I misspoke, I meant I didn't see an immediate need to adjust the length of the domestication process if the backsliding was to be removed.
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Re: the taming window should be more predictable

Postby joojoo1975 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:52 am

MachineLegend wrote:As a fully grown adult with a full-time job, having a relatively small 2-3 hours to play haven during the work week.


Got some bad news for ya.

Some of the experiences for H&H are going to be limited for ya.

It's why some of the people Bot in this game, not that they are Evil or want to be the best with little to no effort(well some don't bot for them reasons) Game mechanics the way they are and whatnot. . .
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Re: the taming window should be more predictable

Postby Pac » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:26 am

joojoo1975 wrote:
MachineLegend wrote:As a fully grown adult with a full-time job, having a relatively small 2-3 hours to play haven during the work week.


Got some bad news for ya.



Bro just job checked himself.
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