Thoughts on deep worm

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Thoughts on deep worm

Postby talt » Mon Dec 01, 2025 11:52 am

I love the hardcore aspect of haven and hearth a lot, It's why I always come back to the game year after year and it will remain one of my favorite games of all time. Like most players I've had my fair share of injuries but the one thing they have in common is I understand why I got them and learn how to avoid it from happening again in the future. Today while creating a new character to do so testing for the new world I ran into deep worm. Being unfamiliar with this injury I did some research and found that no one actually knows what causes it or how to avoid it from happening. This is personally very unsatisfying as most injuries are generally a punishment for making poor decisions and can be learned from and avoided in the future. Not only can I not find out what causes this to avoid it from happening but it seems to be a very punishing injury causing reduced fep gains. Tansy seems to be fairly rare to find as a new character making the injury feel even more unfair. After searching for a while with 300 exp x per I wasn't able to find any making the injury seem even worse. I understand that as my stats increase I'll be able to find Tansy more commonly but in the meantime I'm being punished with a wound that I still have zero clue on what the cause is leading to a very unsatisfying feeling.

TLDR - It should be more clear the cause of deep worm to avoid it from happening again in the future and maybe tansy detection should be the same as yarrow so more can be seen by new characters.
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Re: Thoughts on deep worm

Postby Rebs » Mon Dec 01, 2025 8:19 pm

talt wrote:I love the hardcore aspect of haven and hearth a lot, It's why I always come back to the game year after year and it will remain one of my favorite games of all time. Like most players I've had my fair share of injuries but the one thing they have in common is I understand why I got them and learn how to avoid it from happening again in the future. Today while creating a new character to do so testing for the new world I ran into deep worm. Being unfamiliar with this injury I did some research and found that no one actually knows what causes it or how to avoid it from happening. This is personally very unsatisfying as most injuries are generally a punishment for making poor decisions and can be learned from and avoided in the future. Not only can I not find out what causes this to avoid it from happening but it seems to be a very punishing injury causing reduced fep gains. Tansy seems to be fairly rare to find as a new character making the injury feel even more unfair. After searching for a while with 300 exp x per I wasn't able to find any making the injury seem even worse. I understand that as my stats increase I'll be able to find Tansy more commonly but in the meantime I'm being punished with a wound that I still have zero clue on what the cause is leading to a very unsatisfying feeling.

TLDR - It should be more clear the cause of deep worm to avoid it from happening again in the future and maybe tansy detection should be the same as yarrow so more can be seen by new characters.


you might just go unlucky not finding tansy, I find a fair amount of it, you can totally find it day 1 of a character. It should be mentioned that its unclear in base game how you get many many wounds its only due to community documentation that we know how most occur and how to heal them, (although I believe base client now has the cures displayed). its likely no one has found a way of reproducing deep worm contraction that makes it a questionable. it is a bit of a noob trap but thats like 99% of things in haven, There was a post a few weeks ago about guy eating cupboards of cheese without realising he had a 100% deep worm wound.

I don't like hand holding, but I understand that maybe things like this should be less questionable, Hurricane gives you a warning (/adds the -fep to the list of buff/debuffs while eating) if you are eating with a deep worm, This is something that should probs be the thing to think about in base game.
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Re: Thoughts on deep worm

Postby talt » Mon Dec 01, 2025 8:50 pm

Yeah I probably did just get unlucky with the Tansy. I get what you're saying about hand holding but pretty much every wound I can think of is intuitive as to what caused it. The least they could do is add a hint to the cause in the flavor text on the wound.
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Re: Thoughts on deep worm

Postby xAlexx » Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:31 pm

Maybe if you spent a little time on the wiki you would have seen what caused you to get the injury.
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Re: Thoughts on deep worm

Postby talt » Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:49 pm

The first place I checked was the wiki and it says there is no confirmed cause of deep worm.

https://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Deep_Worm
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Re: Thoughts on deep worm

Postby xAlexx » Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:55 pm

talt wrote:The first place I checked was the wiki and it says there is no confirmed cause of deep worm.

https://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Deep_Worm


I think the "Bitten by Midge Swarm, Tick, Sand Flea" is quite accurate as ive already gotten this injury twice while removing thicket tiles in my base location.
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Re: Thoughts on deep worm

Postby talt » Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:59 pm

That may be so but I still think it would be nice to communicate that clearly to the player in the flavor text of the wound so they can learn to avoid it in the future.
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Re: Thoughts on deep worm

Postby Rebs » Tue Dec 02, 2025 12:30 am

xAlexx wrote:
talt wrote:The first place I checked was the wiki and it says there is no confirmed cause of deep worm.

https://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Deep_Worm


I think the "Bitten by Midge Swarm, Tick, Sand Flea" is quite accurate as ive already gotten this injury twice while removing thicket tiles in my base location.


Yeah I am not confident that this is the case tbh, I auto drop ticks unless you get instantly on them attaching on you, I would assume you get via the wound they give. I have had deep worm appear with no other wound, no midgey bites or sandfea bits nothing, just appears out of no where honestly. I lean more into it getting it when eating roast meat because I have had on it a fresh character before and literally the only thing he did was eat meat and he got it.

It might be insect bites but there is already a lot of wounds related to insects so feels a bit much. No one really knows honestly and unless I see video evidence of someone getting bite by insects and contracting it then I am not 100% confident its that. Although there is an easy way to find out. *goes and stands in a thicket*
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