minor new world criticism

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minor new world criticism

Postby SnuggleSnail » Mon Dec 08, 2025 6:39 am

bad:
  • Faster study time makes keeping a study desk full a bit hard. I filled my study desk completely last night, and when I woke up my brain was half empty
  • First world I haven't gotten obsidian, and I think it's a bigger deal than it's meant to be. After we looted some killing bears went from too slow to be worth it to only taking 5 minutes. This might just be massive baby energy though, since it matters for such a short period
  • 3 large continents feels kinda antithetical to the purpose of having a central continent. I think there are just no other PVPers on my continent, so we are unchecked gods. Feels good now, but in 2 weeks it will probably be kinda stinky when no real PVP
  • Might be placebo, but I think wound conversion is more frequent/worse here
  • I do not want to do full length credos on the expedition servers

good:
  • Faster healing shp/wounds feels amazing and I think people are gonna struggle to go back
  • Everybody FUCKING LOVES jotun clams. Add more shit like jotun clams
  • Getting autism curios to rush vandal felt much better than questing (altho I'm spooked if it gets optimized too much it will circle back around to being worse)
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Re: minor new world criticism

Postby TemuWarrior » Mon Dec 08, 2025 6:51 am

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jorb wrote:
  • All siege significant gates will, thus, confer the visitor debuff.
  • By default, you are able to pass through (visitor) gates while in combat.



hm I kinda don't wanna play anymore tbh this is absurdly out of touch we had this before and it was awful?


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Re: minor new world criticism

Postby SnuggleSnail » Mon Dec 08, 2025 6:55 am

That was a very fair criticism for what they wrote, IMO. Jorb was just trying to be mysterious so he didn't write what the actual mechanic was.

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Re: minor new world criticism

Postby linkfanpc » Mon Dec 08, 2025 7:18 am

TemuWarrior wrote:
SnuggleSnail wrote:
jorb wrote:
  • All siege significant gates will, thus, confer the visitor debuff.
  • By default, you are able to pass through (visitor) gates while in combat.



hm I kinda don't wanna play anymore tbh this is absurdly out of touch we had this before and it was awful?


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Snail why are you talking to yourself?

Not to go off topic but what are you meaning by this? They already clarified they thought this change was bad (and it was weird and vague) and then corrected themselves and said it was alright.

Anyways...

Faster study time makes keeping a study desk full a bit hard. I filled my study desk completely last night, and when I woke up my brain was half empty


This is the big one. Curios need to have their LP and study time buffed by 1.5x or something.

Might be placebo, but I think wound conversion is more frequent/worse here


I've had the exact opposite experience, but might also be my stupidity.

Faster healing shp/wounds feels amazing and I think people are gonna struggle to go back


This is one thing that should stay this fast. It just works.
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Re: minor new world criticism

Postby jorb » Mon Dec 08, 2025 7:40 am

SnuggleSnail wrote:After we looted some killing bears went from too slow to be worth it to only taking 5 minutes.


... what does this mean? What is too slow, and what is its relation to obsidian? "Looted some killing bears"? :thinking:
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Re: minor new world criticism

Postby SnuggleSnail » Mon Dec 08, 2025 7:42 am

The lower/more dispersed population makes local pools a lot less noticeable. It feels SO MUCH better. Botting foragables was always a fake issues. I rly feel like this world is a great proof that local pools should be yeeted.
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Re: minor new world criticism

Postby SnuggleSnail » Mon Dec 08, 2025 7:43 am

jorb wrote:
SnuggleSnail wrote:After we looted some killing bears went from too slow to be worth it to only taking 5 minutes.


... what does this mean? What is too slow, and what is its relation to obsidian? "Looted some killing bears"? :thinking:


sorry I'm tired and retarded

We looted some obsidian knifes from other players, which are the best early game PVP weapon until Bswords/spears, and the best PVE weapon until tinker's axes. Obsidian all gets picked by alts within the first 1-2 hours of the server, so if you don't find lava fast you just don't get any and it makes super early fighting a bit harder
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Re: minor new world criticism

Postby linkfanpc » Mon Dec 08, 2025 7:56 am

SnuggleSnail wrote:sorry I'm tired and retarded



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Re: minor new world criticism

Postby _Scipio » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:17 am

Snugglesnail wrote:...wound conversion is more frequent/worse here...


Well, I noticed the change from w15 to w16. In 16.1, I was very surprised by Fell Slash wound conversion from minor damage like tree chopping.
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Re: minor new world criticism

Postby SnuggleSnail » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:20 am

_Scipio wrote:Well, I noticed the change from w15 to w16. In 16.1, I was very surprised by Fell Slash wound conversion from minor damage like tree chopping.


It always did that, but it took A LOT of chopping blocks for it to happen. It doesn't rly happen outside of botting. I think there's an internal cooldown for how frequently chopping blocks can give a wound/conversion, and time works funi here
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