Edited:From Increase space SR to study same curio and stacks

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Edited:From Increase space SR to study same curio and stacks

Postby XBBW » Mon May 04, 2026 6:39 pm

OLD SUGGESTION:
When reaching a certain intelligence number the study report increases in size of same number by same number. So right now it is 4 by 4, so to get to 5 by 5 player would need to get to 25 intelligence, and for 6 by 6 get 36 int and so on.
The idea is well to have more curios inside the study report in case of study desk being stolen, having high intelligence so plenty of enough mental weight, but not enough space to place curios, also kind of reward to get to a certain number and just another reward and feeling that player is making progress, inventory expansion was great addition, now please same for study report.
Or like have it like inventory and pouches gilding, where 1 extra inteligence = 1 extra square on study report, but I think it would be easier for devs to do the first example and for us give us something to go forward for. The only issue is that then character sheet would need to be resizeable so the expanded study report window could fit.

Yay or nay?

Also yes I know bots, don't care about bots, there will always be bots, ignore botting, this is for average player who doesn't use bots.

EDITED:
Since as people discussed that increasing study report table size with reflecting intelligence might lead to ridiculous sized Study Report like for example 20 by 20 (at 400 Intelligence), if it is really true as some users claimed that it is rather easy to get to 100, 200, 300, 500 or even 1000 just for one stat and this is mainly for Intelligence as I understand that some FEPs are easier to obtain than others, but only devs can tell us that it is true that infact more than just 10 players have reached 500 or 1000 in just Intelligence.

So new suggestion, but within same idea behind it, instead let players study same curios and stack of curios. SInce for example if one player is unlucky enough to spawn only on grasslands, they end up getting mostly Dandelions, so why not let player fill up all of study report with just them, which also would help later on.
Also it would be great to be able to study the stacked curios, which in a way would also act as more space within study report, but as the ones that do stack, since if thet stack in the inventory, why not let people stack them in study report and study all of them and not just 1 by 1 from the stack.
This is mostly for players convenience and things that should have already been added, ignoring the bots ofcourse as those "players" will always be miles ahead of regular players, regardless ofw hatd evs add.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby serVar161 » Mon May 04, 2026 8:02 pm

The idea of ​​increasing the number of slots for exploration based on Intelligence is logical and interesting.

But the proposed mechanism is too unbalanced. Essentially, +1 Intelligence adds one slot.
With 100 Intelligence, which can be achieved in a day, you'll have 100 slots. Compared to the current 16. At 400, you'll have 400!

At some point, you'll simply run out of various curiosities, and you'll have empty slots.
Not to mention that no amount of screen expansion would be enough for that many slots.

A huge number of slots will lead to clothing becoming unnecessary—the soft cap will suffice. Large groups will quickly break away from other, and you'll never catch up. A million XP per hour will become the norm, leveling up will become worthless, and so on.

I think even +1 slot for every 100 Intelligence will be enough.
And it’s better to have +1 cell upon reaching 100, 300, 600, 1000 intelligence.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby Frogg » Mon May 04, 2026 8:57 pm

What you can put in your Study Window is already limited by INT requirements. You would quickly reach a point where you can study everything at the same time without any decision-making or worry about optimization.

in case of study desk being stolen

Just build a new one?

You can build an upgraded Study Desk and there are credos that expand your Study Window if you really need extra space.

(if anything LORE should increase the Study Window because INT already interacts with it in a meaningful way)
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby derkami » Mon May 04, 2026 9:13 pm

-1 I don't like the idea.
You already have better curios with higher mental weight so you need more int. that means you already can study much better with your slots with 300int than you can with 100 int.
More slots would just let you eat all the shit, why have so many different curios to begin with? We already have so many shit curiosities.

Better approach would be to fix he curio system all together. But that's a very different discussion to be had.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby serVar161 » Mon May 04, 2026 10:53 pm

Frogg wrote:(if anything LORE should increase the Study Window because INT already interacts with it in a meaningful way)

Hmm. That sounds even better and more logical.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby r0ck4ev3r » Tue May 05, 2026 3:38 am

--1; Nay.

How fast do you want to be out of exp?
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby azrid » Tue May 05, 2026 7:47 am

I would rather have more endgame high int curios so we have a reason to keep boosting int.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby XBBW » Tue May 05, 2026 7:36 pm

r0ck4ev3r wrote:--1; Nay.

How fast do you want to be out of exp?

That's the thing, you wont, most of exp fastest way to loose it is by using hearth margic and if you do hermit playstyle, you would get exp events in no time.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby XBBW » Tue May 05, 2026 7:44 pm

derkami wrote:-1 I don't like the idea.
You already have better curios with higher mental weight so you need more int. that means you already can study much better with your slots with 300int than you can with 100 int.
More slots would just let you eat all the shit, why have so many different curios to begin with? We already have so many shit curiosities.

Better approach would be to fix he curio system all together. But that's a very different discussion to be had.

yea 100 would be 10 by 10 study report, but let's be honest, most Hermit players don't go past 100 or 200, since I would like to see how many players there are with 1000 intelligence, not just 1 player aka bot, but like 50 or 100 players that have 1000 intelligence, because most of the time, the player can't reach those huge numbers if they played normaly without bots and like let's say like most new players just used 1 character. I doubt that most of them get passed 100 intelligence, but if they do great.
Only devs known how many players have over 100 intelligence, so the limit could be up to 10 by 10 or depending how many players get passed 100 intelligence.
Also just checked wiki and only 3 things are 100 intelligence or over the 120 one the Horrid Love Dart.
The one that is highest, but isn't 100, is Driftwood Crown at 85, which leaves other 15 mental weight for other curios. So 120 as max baseline, could work or whichever is the max average baseline, like 200 and that's for Intelligence only, not other stats.

Also to add on it, most worlds don't last long enough, to get past 200 or 300 Intelligence, the amount of food need to be eaten would be a lot, simply the feps would grind you to a halt if you focus on just 1 stat. Which isn't an issue from my point of view as it makes sense, try eating only 1 food and same food for a whole month.
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