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Re: Amber Client

Postby Apillion » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:14 pm

Prodark wrote:
Yes could write player's position relative to tile_0_0 for the current session to a file or a socket (this will need to be weighted carefully though as both approaches have their advantages and disadvantages).

But this might require significant work from the map tool developers. Not sure if any even have support for "live" loading of sessions.
I am using Mapper by Grafbredbery so frankly I have no idea about other tools or what will be needed to implement it on their side.


I'd be interested to implement this in my map tool. :)



If this happens I'd be interested in using your map tool :)
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Re: Amber Client

Postby CaptainMidget » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:27 am

I know this is a client breaking thing, but does anyone else lose about 10FPS when holding shift down?

Eg; Shift-planting seeds
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Re: Amber Client

Postby Kelody » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:37 am

If you shift right click the seeds, you can area plant rather than shift planting seeds. I haven't really noticed FPS issues, just network ones.
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Re: Amber Client

Postby Marksman » Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:44 am

CaptainMidget wrote:I know this is a client breaking thing, but does anyone else lose about 10FPS when holding shift down?

Eg; Shift-planting seeds

My friend on weak PC have it. When he hold Shift he lose FPS.
For me I'm not found any changes. I will try to look on FPS meter today.
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Re: Amber Client

Postby Vraatjuh » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:19 am

Still love your client, got some requests though if possible:

1. Make it possible to attack animals by clicking on minimap.
2. Hiding of trees/walls/cb's

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Re: Amber Client

Postby PappaPapula » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:12 pm

Ok as we had a strange discussion in village already i want to come back to the avg. quality forumla here.

u say that we have some items here that use a quadratic formula to check which benefits they will give. that might be true and for this items a quadratic avg ql formula is usefull.
but this only counts for this special items. like nettle cloth or bunny sliper or whatever.
it does not count for the items u use to craft this stuff. if u craft nettle out of avg ql 34 stuff u wont get a avg 34 nettle part as result. mostlikely it will be like ql 30 or something.
thats because the craffting formula in every ql is arithmetic and not quadratic. a quadratic formula values items with wider spread stats higher then normal arithmetic formula.
but in crafting results u normaly get more evened out quality numbers. (especialy that early in world where u dont have to many stuff to choose from)

here an example with extremer numbers:

u craft an item out of 3 parts

1. 10 10 100 (avg amber= 58,3 ; avg normal=40)
2. 10 100 10 (avg amber= 58,3 ; avg normal=40)
3. 100 10 10 (avg amber= 58,3 ; avg normal=40)

resulting item will be (cause of arithmetic formula):

40 40 40 (avg amber= 40 ; avg normal=40)

so amber just made u think u craft a pretty awesome bunnyslipper ( ¦] )
but the difference is almost 50% here.

ofc this numbers are extrems and in real usual craftings u mostly only loose like 3 qualitiy lvls comared to what amber shows u... but still its annoying.

so to make it short.

yes quadratic formula is usefull but only for finished items that also use this formula.
but for every other item in game (like 98%?) a arithmetic formula gives u a much better idea of the value of your items.

i hope my english was good enough to explain it :oops:
and thx for this great client anyhow!
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Re: Amber Client

Postby eolind » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:48 pm

you presented a good example
when you craft an object from a few ingredients you need to sum each type of quality of this ingredients individually, not the average quality of each ingredient
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Re: Amber Client

Postby PappaPapula » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:00 pm

if we would all do this every time we wouldnt need avg ql atall
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Re: Amber Client

Postby eolind » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:02 pm

yeah, i got your idea

maybe, then we should request improoved client calculation of quality of resulting craft item?
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Re: Amber Client

Postby shubla » Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:06 pm

Water bar appears when hteres seeds on barrel too. And its not accurate at all. Shows its full even with 1 seed.
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