Let's do some math...

[Peter]

My character is 20 days old, or 480 hours. I have earned a total of 133887 LP. That gives me a rate of just under 280 LP per hour. Note that some of that was with full change, while I am now at 90% tradition.

At that rate, it will take me 703 hours to gain the 53 additional levels of exploration I need to start finding useful amounts of plants. I play about an hour a day at very most, and more likely half an hour. For the sake of this exercise, 45 minutes. At that rate, it will take me 2.63 YEARS of playing before I reach that goal, assuming I never buy any other skills.
And further assuming that I never, ever, die.

This is, of course, not very useful data. We need more data points, so please share your main character's age and total LP value so that a better statistic may be constructed.


Looking at my data, if we assume that I am only capable of 1/10th of the LP generation of a high level player with, say, 6 level 300 skills, they have spent 26 years of 1 hour a day gaming. I'm pretty sure that H&H is less than two decades old, right?

[ArPharazon]

LP gain is not linear.

It is currently very easy to kill bears, and even with the bugs fixed getting the equipment and skills wouldn't take that long, especially in a good community. Also, thankfully LP is not shared by combatants (which is awesome, please don't ever change this J&L!).

[sabinati]

Learning points collected
799 (660199 total)
Age
5 weeks

you do the math

[Jackard]

sadly the only reasonable methods of collecting LP in this game involve either macroing or high level hunting :|

in most games devs go the halfassed route of only discouraging macros, rather than actually encouraging gameplay by making playing more efficient for LP gain. hopefully we'll see the latter here

[Laremere]

Sadly the only reasonable methods of collecting LP in this involve either macroing or high level hunting

So true. It would be nice if people who weren't hunters could compete. I really like the nature side of the game, and like to do that rather than hunt.

[Peter]

Yep. Hunting. Which requires very high levels.
So you need to macro. Fine, if that's what it takes to play this game as it apparently was meant to be played.

I agree that the nature gameplay is actually much better than the combat. It's too bad that it seems to be totally worthless.

Sabinati: So, you get 18,000 LP an hour? How? I'm pretty sure the Claim exploit got fixed...

So low level characters earn 100 LP an hour, I earn 2000 LP, mediums earn what, 5000 LP? And Highs enter the 10,000+ range...

[Machenoid]

This entire topic will be a testiment to why linear progression is a peice of shit that should just stay with pen and paper RPGs. Also, as a frame of reference in physical actions, removing a stump results in 62 XP. Take the experience it takes to get to a skill level, and divide by 62. That's how many stumps you would've chopped to get there.

[ArPharazon]

Well, very few RPGs have linear progression anyway, including DnD.

Why not make it so that crafting better items gives you more LP?

[Ai_Shizuka]

Sabinati: So, you get 18,000 LP an hour? How? I'm pretty sure the Claim exploit got fixed...

Level 7-8 foxes are 1000 lp each at full change. Imagine that with bears.

Still, I completely agree. LP reworking should be one of the main priorities, now that all the new fancy stuff is done.

[niltrias]

Wait, if you are at 90% tradition, of course your progress will be slow. That is ...kinda the point of tradition, I thought. You are safe from death, mostly, but in a sort of stasis...
That said, I agree with most of the other posts about hunting lp gain vs other types...there is just no comparison.