Personal claims need to be weakened

[AnnaC]

Seriously, it's no problem at all to make a few alts, feed them shewbreads, have them idle for belief sliders, then bam in a week you have as many free claims as you made alts. It takes even less time if you bother to cycle faster curios on them. Then boom, a large static claim that you never have to play on the owner hearthling again, unless your main dies and you need to re-kin permissions.

Personal claims shouldn't be able to work if you don't actively work your land. How can you claim ownership over empty land or water? Considering the ease of of claiming this way, natural resources are a joke and can be monopolized with almost no effort at all.

The only solution for other people is to either join this inflated land-grab race, or to risk leaving scents everywhere. And the only defense hearthlings have in this game is either being inconspicuous, or having a large defense network. For small groups or hermits the easiest way to do this is have vaults. So then it's just assholes hiding in vaults griefing everyone elses alt-claimed resources. Oh wait that's the game as-is now isn't it?

[Hipponos]

I second this!

There should be some decay for personal claims just like there is authority for villages.

[SacreDoom]

*shrug*

Make us need to feed our pclaim with ancestors' item requests, or possibly make a bar that works like authority, but the bar only raises when you do stuff ON the claim.

[AnnaC]

Well that's the problem, and why I didn't post suggestions to fix...

Adding upkeep sucks because like back in the day with personal claim decay, for casual players whenever you would log on all your time was spent repairing all your stuff (it sucked and wasn't any fun). Any sort of upkeep system I don't see it doing anything different unless it's wonderfully designed.

Maybe if more quality resources were scattered, or they would deplete and generate in new areas every so often would be an option. Or another option would be lower the authority requirement to revoke claims so you could combat these LP banks or alt-claims. But then it might switch it over to alt-villages controlling everything, which is the same issue (although the resource requirements to make a village are more than a large sized personal claim).

Edit: this thread was really more of a rant on my part; an unclaimed q44 well which has been unclaimed for atleast 3 months now was just recently claimed by some prick. Of course over the past month I've though about alt-claiming it myself but I figured that would be a jerk move, so well my loss for trying to act "noble".

[spectacle]

We need claim decay, but we definitely don't need any busywork upkeep system. Just link the claim to LP gained by the owner, like authority is for villages. Give it a long grace period so that players can go on vacation etc without worrying about their claim decaying in the mean time, and we're good.

[mvgulik]

Personal-Claim Decay will not really change things like this. (OP problem part. Part of the game)

One option:
If the claim is not to big, you could surround it with Alt-HF's. Just to show your dislike about the current claim.
Starting a palisade around the claim is also a option. (provided you put a nice HF ring around it to, so the claimer needs to put in some effort to get to his claim-pole to extend it.)
- Preload all your alt's with logs to speedup the build process when the corner-post has dried.

Other option:
Leave a note. As claimer might not be a bad guy.


(Some way to see abandoned claims go down would not be a bad thing ... Player not playing anymore.)

[Tonkyhonk]

id understand the rant, but imo that doesnt make another critique thread legit for the same topic brought up countless times.

[burgingham]

The problem mentioned in the OP is linked to the easy way of raising alts nowadays rather than to claims being overpowered.

Claims need to be getting an upkeep none the less for the sake of decay coming back to the world. It used to be the case that uninhabited farms etc would revert back to nature eventually, but with the removal of decay on claims that is in the past. Bringing it back would allow a world to be a much more consistent and longer lasting thing. As much as feeding a claim a dream once a month would be enough to show you are still active.

[Hipponos]

exactly!

[MagicManICT]

Edit: this thread was really more of a rant on my part; an unclaimed q44 well which has been unclaimed for atleast 3 months now was just recently claimed by some prick. Of course over the past month I've though about alt-claiming it myself but I figured that would be a jerk move, so well my loss for trying to act "noble".

A solution to this would be to drop a claim of your own, but dont' cover the resource (in this case a well). Just put it close enough nobody else can claim it, either. Of course, this leaves the claim open to being revoked easily by a vclaim, but that means it's more effort than just dropping a pclaim with an alt.