Barges and roofed wagons

[Raephire]

Barges

required - Lots of wood and some metal bars, possibly other materials

purpose - Like rowboats only they carry more containers. Including dead animals, however bears take 2x2, if not 3x3


Roofed wagons

required - Cloth, craploads of wood, Leather for reins.

purpose -

Roofed wagons operate the same way as barges, only they move at sprinting speed over plains but only walking speed through forest. On paved roads they move at fastest speed without stamina loss.

These would be a mainstay for hunting parties.

[Gauteamus]

Nice suggestions.
Some important questions:

Why would the Roofed Wagon have a better movetype than our current Carts?
Why would anyone ever build a Rowboat or Cart, other than the rather limited convenience of lower material costs?

I want mechanics that make different solutions to a demand have different pros and cons.

[Raephire]

Sure. Metal makes everything better. the roofed wagon would need a horse or two, They would be vulnerable!

Also - The barge cant go into shallow water, you'd need to rowboat to and from. Once built it must be christened, its carryable until its christened, it can only be christened when placed in deep water... Get it? Pros and cons... much more work

- Edit - Noticed that the barge/shallow water would be counter-intuitive for carrying carcasses.. maybe we can build a net and pully system to get stuff from land?

[sabinati]

why do people want to put carcasses directly into carts/boats? butcher it and put it in a chest, it's more efficient anyway.

[Raephire]

why do people want to put carcasses directly into carts/boats? butcher it and put it in a chest, it's more efficient anyway.

Not everyone has feasible access to metals, people want silk cloth for metal, They can sit on it and rotate, up to the god damned elbow. It's not a fair trade

[Potjeh]

The minimum price is two bars for a single thread, and you can get five chests out of two bars. You only need two for hunting (one, if you have a grinder and you take it with you).

[theTrav]

Not everyone has feasible access to metals, people want silk cloth for metal, They can sit on it and rotate, up to the god damned elbow. It's not a fair trade

1 - Complain about trades in the trade forum not here.
2 - Brodgar will give you a bar for 20 linen (100 plant fiber equivalent)
3 - Two bars for one silk thread is dirt cheap, a single batch of 5 worms at full nature should net you at least one thread, you can do that in two straw baskets without much effort
4 - There are plenty of other things people want and will pay metal for. Got high quality wood? High quality anything else? Made a lot of beer? Got a lot of straw for mansions? Lot of carrot cakes?

[Fluffy]

Instead of having a barge have inventory slots, why not just a flat deck that acts like solid ground, but moves with the boat. You can set containers down on it, as many as you can pack on. Of course it would screw with the graphics alot(item rotation) and it would require quite a bit of work to keep everything in it's spot..

[Laremere]

Dead animals not in carts or boats is because they don't save with the map, so they can't go in there without extra coding which isn't worth it at the moment, not because of anything else.

I agree with barges. They should be able to hold lots of goods, but be slow. They therefor wouldn't be any good for traveling, but a large inventory would make them worth it for bringing trade goods up and down rivers.

I also want covered wagons that require horses to pull, good for inland on roads trade.

[sabinati]

Not everyone has feasible access to metals, people want silk cloth for metal, They can sit on it and rotate, up to the god damned elbow. It's not a fair trade

1 - Complain about trades in the trade forum not here.
2 - Brodgar will give you a bar for 20 linen (100 plant fiber equivalent)
3 - Two bars for one silk thread is dirt cheap, a single batch of 5 worms at full nature should net you at least one thread, you can do that in two straw baskets without much effort
4 - There are plenty of other things people want and will pay metal for. Got high quality wood? High quality anything else? Made a lot of beer? Got a lot of straw for mansions? Lot of carrot cakes?

shit i've been doing 10-14 linen for a bar