Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

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Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby Jaroslav » Wed May 05, 2010 9:51 pm

Now that we have these neat things called rams i think it would be a good thing to change it so that no one man can destroy a brick wall by himself.

Granted no one has 500 str this map yet, but sooner or later someone will, and when that person does no village will be safe and there is not a single thing they can do about it.

If we change it so that Brick walls can only be killed by a ram, atleast the villages have some sort of protection if they patroll their walls regularly.
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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby Potjeh » Wed May 05, 2010 10:00 pm

Yeah, I made that point in an old thread of mine.

Nobody likes reading wall of texts, so here's the relevant part: all walls should require siege weapons to break, but more advanced wall should require more advanced weapons, which would take more time to dry. So yeah, make palisades unbreakable by hand as well, but add "light ram" or something, which can break palisade but not brick, and which takes only 12 hours to dry (as opposed to regular ram's 24).
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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby kralmir » Wed May 05, 2010 10:01 pm

to break down a brick wall you need 810 strength on your own. fyi
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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby Potjeh » Wed May 05, 2010 10:03 pm

790 with a pick. Either case, it's not really all that unreachable with a big cheese industry.
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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby Sarge » Wed May 05, 2010 10:06 pm

Jaroslav wrote:...Granted no one has 500 str this map yet...


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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby sabinati » Wed May 05, 2010 10:06 pm

anyone being able to smash any wall or building by themselves with no equiment (i.e. a ram) is kind of stupid imo
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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby Skorm » Wed May 05, 2010 10:10 pm

Now that we have these neat things called rams i think it would be a good thing to change it so that no one man can destroy a brick wall by himself.


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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby KoE » Wed May 05, 2010 10:33 pm

I agree. The sort of arms-race between walls and one man smashing them down seems like it's not working out to anybody's satisfaction, so requiring some organization on the raider's part seems fair.
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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby DeadlyPencil » Thu May 06, 2010 2:48 am

you talk about no village being safe. but by making brick walls unbreakable, you also make a griefer 100% safe behind 2 spaced out brick walls. so basically you would never ever be able to kill him unless you caught him online.
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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby Blxz » Thu May 06, 2010 5:09 am

DeadlyPencil wrote:you talk about no village being safe. but by making brick walls unbreakable, you also make a griefer 100% safe behind 2 spaced out brick walls. so basically you would never ever be able to kill him unless you caught him online.


Yes. So?

The game encourages raiding. Why shouldn't someone be able to have a powerful little fort and raid out from it? I don't like the idea but even so, raiders shouldn't be made magically weaker. The point of this thread was that defenders should be safer. Having stronger walls will help your poor little farmers who are getting griefed much much more than it will help any raiders anyway. It is FAR more likely for a raider to have insane STR and be able to destroy a palisade (so far) by themselves than a farmer. If the little farmer can build stronger walls he is far more likely to survive, or at least to deter all but the most dedicated raiders. Think about the implications of somehting next time. Do you seriously think you could break through a raiders 2 layered brick wall without a ram now?
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