Hiding stolen goods on alts.

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Re: Hiding stolen goods on alts.

Postby Jackard » Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:08 am

Another option would be to make inventories persist after logging in the form of a bag. Then items always remain within the world.

not saying its a good one just throwing it in there
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Re: Hiding stolen goods on alts.

Postby Ferinex » Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:16 am

Jackard wrote:Another option would be to make inventories persist after logging in the form of a bag. Then items always remain within the world.

not saying its a good one just throwing it in there


Interesting idea that maintains balance between thieves and legits. Having the Hearth Fire act as an inventory when offline would work just fine. Maybe needing a theft clue to look at the contents. I still like the idea of being able to summon the stolen item, so you yourself do not drop a theft clue upon retrieving YOUR item. : )
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Re: Hiding stolen goods on alts.

Postby Krantarin » Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:24 am

You know, come to think of it, we could always stay in-game asleep on beds, but wake up and fight automatically if our characters are attacked.

I haven't given this much thought and it's late, so the idea probably sucks, but it's worth a shot...
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Re: Hiding stolen goods on alts.

Postby Ferinex » Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:35 am

Krantarin wrote:You know, come to think of it, we could always stay in-game asleep on beds, but wake up and fight automatically if our characters are attacked.

I haven't given this much thought and it's late, so the idea probably sucks, but it's worth a shot...


It's been suggested before. If you logged off in ass-end-nowhere it would either need to port you back to your bed or put you to sleep on the ground. I don't like being vulnerable and I don't like having to walk all the way home before logging off, so imho the only option is porting you to your bed. And if you were going for the level of realism where an offline player is left in a bed it's a bit incongruous to have them teleporting there. : )
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Re: Hiding stolen goods on alts.

Postby Delamore » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:41 am

All ideas aside from item taint are terrible, what happens if I rob a huge town and sell off the wrought to everyone? Fuck you the town takes it back from you! and now I have untainted other items I exchanged for.
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Re: Hiding stolen goods on alts.

Postby Potjeh » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:46 am

That's a very real risk in real life too. I once bought a CD player, and a couple of days later the cops came and took it from me and took me downtown for some questioning (surprisingly, it didn't involve savage beating). It turned out that I had bought stolen goods. The CD player was confiscated, and I never got my money back. However, much of it was my fault because I bought from an untrustworthy person at a suspiciously low price.

Point is, you need to be careful who you do business with.
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Re: Hiding stolen goods on alts.

Postby Erik_the_Blue » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:51 am

Realistically, "taint" comes about because people hear about the theft and become suspicious when someone tries to give/sell them goods that just happen to match the description of whatever was recently stolen. Marking the goods themselves as tainted is basically a crutch for the fact that no local community is reliably persistent enough to maintain such collective knowledge. That, and a bar of cast iron (for example) is completely indifferentiable from every other bar of cast iron (speaking from an in-game perspective). I wonder if there's any other game mechanic that could better simulate reality, or at least allow for a more palatable conceit?
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Re: Hiding stolen goods on alts.

Postby Delamore » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:55 am

Potjeh wrote:That's a very real risk in real life too. I once bought a CD player, and a couple of days later the cops came and took it from me and took me downtown for some questioning (surprisingly, it didn't involve savage beating). It turned out that I had bought stolen goods. The CD player was confiscated, and I never got my money back. However, much of it was my fault because I bought from an untrustworthy person at a suspiciously low price.

Point is, you need to be careful who you do business with.

You are talking about a more high end object, what about stolen objects that have no way to trace them back, in this case wrought.
I could understand a merchant robe or tophat being recognised but not a bar of metal.
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Re: Hiding stolen goods on alts.

Postby Raephire » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:21 pm

Let's get this straight people, Stealing something back frm thieves is NOT THEFT. It should never set a scent.

and someone hired to execute someone under the authority of a town within which a scent was taken should not ever drop a scent unless they steal from the corpse, and true executioners dont steal from the corpses of thieves,
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Re: Hiding stolen goods on alts.

Postby Rugs » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:04 pm

Yes that's exactly what we need, more possibilties to kill helpless offline players.

This is shaping into quite the PvP enviroment!


This is a bad solution.

Think of a better one.

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