Let's do some math...

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Re: Let's do some math...

Postby sabinati » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:14 am

Peter wrote:Yep. Hunting. Which requires very high levels.
So you need to macro. Fine, if that's what it takes to play this game as it apparently was meant to be played.

I agree that the nature gameplay is actually much better than the combat. It's too bad that it seems to be totally worthless.

Sabinati: So, you get 18,000 LP an hour? How? I'm pretty sure the Claim exploit got fixed...

So low level characters earn 100 LP an hour, I earn 2000 LP, mediums earn what, 5000 LP? And Highs enter the 10,000+ range...


lol did you fail math

5 weeks is 35 days or 840 hours
660k / 840 ~ 785
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Re: Let's do some math...

Postby sabinati » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:21 am

ArPharazon wrote:Well, very few RPGs have linear progression anyway, including DnD.

Why not make it so that crafting better items gives you more LP?


a lot of crafted items give really good lp
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Re: Let's do some math...

Postby Rift » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:38 am

Actually.. if you could mass produce say.. 100's of platearmors or something, you would be swimming in lp beyond your wildest dreams.
However.. i can honestly say i have never macro'd and have lots of LP. It took awhile to get from there to here, but it wasnt impossible.. and i worked 40 hour work weeks and slept 9 hours a day normally...and went out on weekends ect.

Did i mention i have millions of LP invested now?
...it wasnt that hard.
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Re: Let's do some math...

Postby JayTheGreatest » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:52 am

Character created at
2009-09-06 xx:52
Last played at
2009-09-08 xx:57
Learning points collected
(74378 total)
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Re: Let's do some math...

Postby ArPharazon » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:55 am

sabinati wrote:a lot of crafted items give really good lp


EDIT: Sure, but ridiculous in comparison to bear clubbing. Foxes easily give 500-1000 LP and foxes are like... Pitiful. Why shouldn't bread give something similar at high skill and quality levels? Yes, 500 lp *per bread dough*. It takes much longer to make bread than to kill a fox. Plus, baking bread is kind of a low incentive labor now, which hurts communities.
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Re: Let's do some math...

Postby sabinati » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:57 am

yeah but how long does it take you to find a bear?
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Re: Let's do some math...

Postby ArPharazon » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:59 am

On the old map, 5 minutes tops. I'd find a few forests and rotate through them, by the time I finish my circuit and process the meat the bears have respawned.

Also, making breastplate is waaaay longer (like, powers of ten longer) and gives a fraction of the lp. The benefits are bigger, but so what? Bears give bangers. You could make a lot of bangers in 2 days.
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Re: Let's do some math...

Postby Brosephine » Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:15 am

Peter wrote:280 LP per hour


It takes approximately 5 minutes to make 280 LP, either making teapots or stone axes. Macro that for an hour and you should easily hit 700/hour.
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Re: Let's do some math...

Postby theTrav » Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:19 am

this morning i built a cabin on my own with a bone saw in 1 to 2 hr... I earned over 1k xp
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Re: Let's do some math...

Postby sabinati » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:53 am

actually i think the 5 weeks figure is inaccurate.

this is probably closer
1 weeks, 1 days, 04 hours, 01 minutes, 13 seconds
~196 hours

had a couple other characters on this account so maybe its off by a bit but i never played much with either of them.

so now i'm at (684200 total)

so about 3500 per hour i guess. edit: looks like i've racked up about 20k tonight
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