Rotatable Cabis/Kilns/Ovens/Forges

[theTrav]

I just thought this morning, maybe you could have most things in 2D sprites and just do a few things in 3D.

[Quasic]

I just thought this morning, maybe you could have most things in 2D sprites and just do a few things in 3D.

You guys are not thinking isometrically.

All we need is a way to rotate to 4 different perspectives, all still basically isometric. Two new hotkeys.

Yes, north would get lost, but a simple compass arrow somewhere could fix that.

This would not entail "3D client"... which sounds great but ... oh god the code.

Really the only thing you'd need to do is store orientation on objects. It would be nice to be able to orient buildings especially.

I may be oversimplifying the "simple" here, but it's gotta be 100x less complex than throwing the vectory beast of 3D into the mix...

Monkeyboy

[Peter]

Somehow this thread got all about rotatable isometrics, which could be kinda awesome. So you need four times the art content for every item, it just give Jorb a chance to draw more phallusii. Luckily small items can ignore rotation (I think). Still, it would be a huge change to the actual display code, so I wouldn't expect J&L to take that lightly. I think they may have mentioned it before, but I don't recall what the consensus was.

[Gauteamus]

Yes, the thread took a turn. Rotatable isometrics would probably be awesome, but one issue would be how to decide what "hidden" items to display or not in different perspectives - the "real" hiding mechanism in the game makes quite alot of fun.

[loftar]

I've written about it elsewhere, but I actually wouldn't mind terribly remaking Haven into a true 3D game. As long as the general from-above perspective doesn't change, it probably wouldn't require too much effort, even; the most troublesome issue would be the ridges. But it would be kinda cool, because it would allow one to rotate constructions arbitrarily, to rotate the camera arbitrarily, to add cool lighting effects that cast real shadows (which could make the nights really neat), and other interesting things. It would also make animation of the players much easier and allow eliminating many graphical hacks and limitations.

The main problem is, well, the lack of 3D models. :)

[Avu]

The game runs like crap in 2D what makes you think 3D is going to be easier on our systems you a better 3D programmer than a 2D one?

[sabinati]

it would be cool to make it 3d as long as it retains it charming old-school graphical look and feel

[sabinati]

The game runs like crap in 2D what makes you think 3D is going to be easier on our systems you a better 3D programmer than a 2D one?

it would probably be able to make use of your GPU's 3d acceleration capabilities, which it currently is not able to do

[theTrav]

The game runs like crap in 2D what makes you think 3D is going to be easier on our systems you a better 3D programmer than a 2D one?

it would probably be able to make use of your GPU's 3d acceleration capabilities, which it currently is not able to do

It is using hardware acceleration, but probably not as many advantages as it could. I'm not an expert but I don't think OpenGL really distinguishes between 2d and 3d.

The main benefits you'd get by going 3d is that loftar wouldn't have to worry so much about layering and outlines etc. I don't think it would really be a performance benefit, but it certainly wouldn't be a cost either.

[Teme]

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Anyone thought about that lately?