wonky mouse

[loftar]

I had been looking for this thread, trying to answer it, but I couldn't find it. Thanks for bumping it. :)

Actually, the weird thing is that the values you told me do reflect that it's running plainly slow. I find it weird because your hardware should, by all accounts, be better then mine (I have an AMD Athlon64 X2 2.2 GHz, and a GeForce 7300 GS, and am also running a 32 bit OS), and it's running perfectly fast for me, even with the screen full of crops.

What you write about it running fine "for like 5 seconds, then the fans start like crazy and everything slows down", does seem indicative to me of a clogged air channel in your laptop. (It is a laptop, right? I assumed so the you said you have a GeForce M graphics card.) Jorb's laptop also had that kind of problem, where the vent was clogged with dust, and it, too, would run fine in the beginning and then slow down with the fans running like crazy. After I disassembled it and declogged the vent, it ran perfectly well. My theory is that the CPU and/or GPU, sensing that they were too hot, scaled down their operating frequencies in order not to overheat. I know it kinda seems like cheating to blame it on the hardware, but it does sound like that to me.

[kimya]

yeah i thought about that possibility too. sounds logic aswell. im just wondering why it would need so so much power? like, when im playing crysis, i get decent grafics (lil below "average") without lagging. and its weird, cause the cpu usage isnt more than 50% (h&h). why would it get so hot then? maybe the gpu is working like crazy...
my notebook is standing on the table and its wuite new - no more than 4 months. i doubt the fans are very dirty.
but ill experiment with it. ill put it on top of some books , that way the fans get cold air better, and ill have a look at the fans and clean them.

thank you loftar!

[kimya]

so, i cleaned my (almost NEW!!) fan and it was a shitload of dust in it. so now the games running faster, but still its lagging too much for my taste. dunno whats wrong with it. we'll see... maybe its because of the summer. im waiting for winter now to test it hehe

[theTrav]

I've also noticed the mouse acting funny, as though the motion was tied to the frame rate.
This shouldn't have to be the case code wise, it'd probably be a big improvement to the interface if it wasn't

[Malicus]

Anyway, I've also noticed this after having relogged several times without restarting the client.

[loftar]

This shouldn't have to be the case code wise, it'd probably be a big improvement to the interface if it wasn't

Indeed, it shouldn't have to be the case -- it is possible to ask AWT to create a custom cursor and use it, but for some reason, when I'm doing that, it will only give me a cursor with two colors (and transparency), which looks like crap when used with our current cursor sprites. If anyone knows of any pointers on how to avoid that, please feel free to share them.

[Ferinex]

This shouldn't have to be the case code wise, it'd probably be a big improvement to the interface if it wasn't

Indeed, it shouldn't have to be the case -- it is possible to ask AWT to create a custom cursor and use it, but for some reason, when I'm doing that, it will only give me a cursor with two colors (and transparency), which looks like crap when used with our current cursor sprites. If anyone knows of any pointers on how to avoid that, please feel free to share them.

Could you stick this crappy looking way in as a console command option? It would be a nice placeholder for those that get slow framerates. My other, older computer gets absolutely horrible performance in Haven even though it's a 2.3GHz P4 with half a megabyte of RAM. Using the mouse pointer is next to impossible, and makes the game unplayable. A good look through the code to increase performance would make for a nice update, especially if you threw in some new content too for those that do not have performance problems

[Blaze]

Could you stick this crappy looking way in as a console command option? It would be a nice placeholder for those that get slow framerates. My other, older computer gets absolutely horrible performance in Haven even though it's a 2.3GHz P4 with >>>half a megabyte of RAM<<<. Using the mouse pointer is next to impossible, and makes the game unplayable. A good look through the code to increase performance would make for a nice update, especially if you threw in some new content too for those that do not have performance problems

Good lord, how does that thing even run?

Back on topic: Can you find out what's causing the lag with all the plants? Is it like the moving grass lag in Oblivion?

[theTrav]

If anyone knows of any pointers on how to avoid that, please feel free to share them.

I asked at my usual place: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1090080/how-do-i-use-more-than-two-colors-using-and-awt-hardware-cursor

One answer is that there may be a toolkit that lets you use more than 2 colours.

One work around is to create a hardware mouse with 100% transparency, create a mouse listener to receive position updates and then draw the pretty colored cursor manually.
It won't be quite as smooth visually as a mouse that's entirely hardware, however it'll move about with the same smoothness as a hardware mouse does.


P.S. Nag about opening up the UI code so you can spend more time doing the server side stuff.
If Jorb's worried about his graphics you don't even have to release the resource jars

[Ferinex]

Blaze: I was thinking '512 megabytes' and typing 'half a gigabyte'. It got lost in translation I guess