Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby Onionfighter » Thu May 06, 2010 6:21 am

Blxz wrote:
DeadlyPencil wrote:you talk about no village being safe. but by making brick walls unbreakable, you also make a griefer 100% safe behind 2 spaced out brick walls. so basically you would never ever be able to kill him unless you caught him online.


Yes. So?

The game encourages raiding. Why shouldn't someone be able to have a powerful little fort and raid out from it? I don't like the idea but even so, raiders shouldn't be made magically weaker. The point of this thread was that defenders should be safer. Having stronger walls will help your poor little farmers who are getting griefed much much more than it will help any raiders anyway. It is FAR more likely for a raider to have insane STR and be able to destroy a palisade (so far) by themselves than a farmer. If the little farmer can build stronger walls he is far more likely to survive, or at least to deter all but the most dedicated raiders. Think about the implications of somehting next time. Do you seriously think you could break through a raiders 2 layered brick wall without a ram now?


The last few raids were accomplished by people hiding behind stuff until someone with keys came out. And the game doesn't encourage raiding. Defenders will not be safe if attackers know they can retreat to their impenetrable fortress. Why don't you think about the implications of something next time?
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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby kralmir » Thu May 06, 2010 6:25 am

any smart defender doesnt use any fucking gates, ever, at all, whatsoever with the exception of 1 gate and the sole key being on a alt and it only being used if the outside crossroad destination is destroyed, and even then only to replace it again.

cause seriously, use crossroads to port outside the wall and port back inside through hf, drink booze to reduce wearyness.

no keys no risk no stupidity.
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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby Jackard » Thu May 06, 2010 7:22 am

sabinati wrote:anyone being able to smash any wall or building by themselves with no equiment (i.e. a ram) is kind of stupid imo

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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby sabinati » Thu May 06, 2010 3:17 pm

DeadlyPencil wrote:you talk about no village being safe. but by making brick walls unbreakable, you also make a griefer 100% safe behind 2 spaced out brick walls. so basically you would never ever be able to kill him unless you caught him online.


nobody ever said make brick wall unbreakable. they said make them breakable only by ram.
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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby DatOneGuy » Thu May 06, 2010 8:25 pm

If this happens, here's the raiders solution to this:
Build brickwall area around a piece of your area, build the ram inside it (with a gate or a way of warping in)

The only way you could get to their ram to break it would be to break their brickwall, which would require a ram. xD

I'm sure there would be another few neat ways for them to abuse this just as much if not more than you.
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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby sabinati » Thu May 06, 2010 8:41 pm

clearly you've never built a brick wall, datoneguy
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Re: Change it so that brick walls can only be broken by ram

Postby theTrav » Thu May 06, 2010 10:27 pm

sounds like a lot of effort to smash down a wall... that's good right?
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