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Re: Chew Tabacco

Postby durhurrr » Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:56 am

Chakravanti wrote:
Granger wrote:
and a 0.1% chance of dropping dead.

Yea, but as a stacking long-term effect.

'You got cancer and died painfully'

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only if you smoke it.


Actually chewing tobacco causes different mouth cancers such as gum cancer and tongue cancer.
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Re: Chew Tabacco

Postby Chakravanti » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:16 am

durhurrr wrote:Actually chewing tobacco causes different mouth cancers such as gum cancer and tongue cancer.

Actually, you've been lied to. There's absolutely no evidence showing that smokeless tobacco causes cancer. All the identifiable carcinogens are the byproduct of the combustion of plant material (smoking).
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Re: Chew Tabacco

Postby Granger » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:11 pm

Chakravanti wrote:
durhurrr wrote:Actually chewing tobacco causes different mouth cancers such as gum cancer and tongue cancer.

Actually, you've been lied to. There's absolutely no evidence showing that smokeless tobacco causes cancer. All the identifiable carcinogens are the byproduct of the combustion of plant material (smoking).


Are you working in the tobacco industry?
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Re: Chew Tabacco

Postby Iryn » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:14 pm

Chakravanti wrote:
durhurrr wrote:Actually chewing tobacco causes different mouth cancers such as gum cancer and tongue cancer.

Actually, you've been lied to. There's absolutely no evidence showing that smokeless tobacco causes cancer. All the identifiable carcinogens are the byproduct of the combustion of plant material (smoking).


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Speaking of falsehoods, your post is rife with them. Don't listen to the forum-man kiddies, listen to the scientists:
http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Monograph ... o89-6E.pdf
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Re: Chew Tabacco

Postby jorb » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:20 pm

I don't know shit about chewing tobacco, but I do know that the warning labels on snus (Swedish wet snuff) no longer cite cancer as one of the potential health risks. It used to, but there is evidently very little to suggest that that was ever true.

"The Swedish government has studied this stuff to death, and to date, there is no compelling evidence that it has any adverse health consequences. ... Whatever they eventually find out, it is dramatically less dangerous than smoking."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus#Cancer
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Re: Chew Tabacco

Postby Chakravanti » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:33 pm

http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/

Read this. Stop believing anything everyone fucking tells you and do your own damn research.
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Re: Chew Tabacco

Postby ewlol » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:54 pm

Chakravanti wrote:http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/

Read this. Stop believing anything everyone fucking tells you and do your own damn research.


Why must you be so aggressive in your statements? Besides you are wrong, and trusting a crappily-made website by people who lack the self-control to get over a serious addiction.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Tobacco/smokeless

Read this, information made by a national government institute before making such a seething declaration to someone who is right. Not only does a proper researcher use more than 1 source, but they also respect others research and take it to mind before making an idea a fact.

http://www.snuson.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-10977.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7494230
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/moist-snuff-high-in-carcinogenic-content_100283627.html
http://www.scientificblogging.com/news/want_your_carcinogens_more_efficiently_pick_chew_over_cigarettes
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Re: Chew Tabacco

Postby Potjeh » Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:00 pm

Snus causes some serious tissue degradation, though. I know a guy who lives in Sweden and has been using snus for years, when he pushes his finger between his cheek and gums, it reaches almost all the way to his eyes.
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Re: Chew Tabacco

Postby jorb » Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:42 pm

Potjeh wrote:Snus causes some serious tissue degradation, though. I know a guy who lives in Sweden and has been using snus for years, when he pushes his finger between his cheek and gums, it reaches almost all the way to his eyes.


lol, yeah, that much is true. For what that is, though, I think it's fairly harmless. I think the stuff is corrosive, quite simply.
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Re: Chew Tabacco

Postby Potjeh » Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:11 pm

Having your face fall off is hardly harmless. Unless you're Travolta/Cage, I guess.
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