taproot should give per fep

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Re: taproot should give per fep

Postby Jackard » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:45 pm

sabinati wrote:plaice is easy if you find a lake with shallow water and a fish spot but they only come out at night and are generally a pain in the ass. carrots are obviously the superior method since you can farm them. but realistically, starting out, there aren't any good sources of per. obviously i have plenty of peas, carrots, beetroot, and roasted deer now that it's not an issue, but early game would benefit from this, i think. since the only early game food sources are fish and foraging (and tree products which give no FEP (they should, btw)), there is a pretty narrow chance of getting PER early on, making you dump a lot more into exploration. granted the bloated bolete is a nice PER foragable, but you need a fair amount of per*expl to see it.

sabinati it seems like you are missing something obvious here. if the goal of this is to give foraging a more natural progression, and there is already a forageable that gives PER, then why not simply lower the stats needed to see them?

buffing taproots would only devalue boletes. taproots have their own purpose, newbie string
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Re: taproot should give per fep

Postby AnnaC » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:56 am

Boletes are mostly DEX though, and if you're a forager you're already good on DEX with chantrelles.

I like this idea, mainly because I was trying to eat taproot as I travelled for the food diversity FEP bonus, but it wouldn't work since I guess it requires a food with FEPs. For food items, with the whole Q scaling, do you have to begin the food with a full 1 FEP point? Because if taproots were minimal PER, they would be beneficial for a quick diversity bite, and over time if you eat them while travelling (which I do being a mapper/forager) it will possibly give a useful benefit; over a lot of time.

Like if taproot was like a poor quality carrot; you really can't rely on them alone to raise your PER FEPs, but they are great to add to a PER meal. Isn't the FEP system supposed to encourage dietary diversity?
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Re: taproot should give per fep

Postby jgudge » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:58 am

AnnaC wrote: Isn't the FEP system supposed to encourage dietary diversity?

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Re: taproot should give per fep

Postby cobaltjones » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:02 am

Eating taproot isn't supposed to be beneficial though. It's like eating dirt. Just the fact that you're even able to eat them is rare. They're really just in place as a last resort for a starving newbie. You shouldn't be rewarded for eating something like that.

I'm all for introducing a new forageable with minimal PER value, but it needs to be relatively rare, and definitely not a taproot.
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Re: taproot should give per fep

Postby jgudge » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:04 am

Btw, what's the gain for a bolette? I ate one, my percep raised one. My bar was empty, so wth? lol
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Re: taproot should give per fep

Postby Jackard » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:05 am

AnnaC wrote:Boletes are mostly DEX though, and if you're a forager you're already good on DEX with chantrelles.

Change boletes, not taproots. You guys seem really fixated on the wrong solution.
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Re: taproot should give per fep

Postby AnnaC » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:07 am

Jackard wrote:
AnnaC wrote:Boletes are mostly DEX though, and if you're a forager you're already good on DEX with chantrelles.

Change boletes, not taproots. You guys seem really fixated on the wrong solution.


I would be ok with making boletes majority PER. It still would make taproot worthless as a food, but everyone's points about it being a last resort food are sound.
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Re: taproot should give per fep

Postby jgudge » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:09 am

Again, what are the gains in approximate percentage for bolette?
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Re: taproot should give per fep

Postby Jackard » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:10 am

AnnaC wrote:I would be ok with making boletes majority PER. It still would make taproot worthless as a food, but everyone's points about it being a last resort food are sound.

Taproots are for newbie string, not really meant to be a source of FEP in the first place.
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Re: taproot should give per fep

Postby AnnaC » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:12 am

Jackard wrote:
AnnaC wrote:I would be ok with making boletes majority PER. It still would make taproot worthless as a food, but everyone's points about it being a last resort food are sound.

Taproots are for newbie string, not food.

Shut up I like eating my taproot! Stupid blueberries messing my stats up! :|

jgudge wrote:Again, what are the gains in approximate percentage for bolette?

Something like 1 PER 3 DEX FEPs, I don't know exactly but something like that. Most of the boletes I've found are ~q20-q30 and they've never filled my FEP bar but they give it a good hit (highest stat right now is INT at 28).
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