Lp debate

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Re: Lp debate

Postby inventer110 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:49 am

bmjclark wrote:I see no new ideas. I see someone covering their ears and suggesting a system that didn't work despite all the evidence that it didn't work.


I see someone with a mild arrogance dismissing ideas without giving them proper merit.

(mabye not so mild)
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Re: Lp debate

Postby bmjclark » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:50 am

Arrogant perhaps, but i still don't think im wrong ;)
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Re: Lp debate

Postby inventer110 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:50 am

bmjclark wrote:The fact that no one wants to camp a fucking ram for 24 hours?


i would if i had nothing else to do. raiding is fun. plus if you had more than 1 person it could be done taking turns.

ps. i dont have much to do while i am waiting for lp to tick away. so i would have the time.
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Re: Lp debate

Postby TeckXKnight » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:51 am

bmjclark wrote:Unless im mistaken, bots gained significantly more LP digging or mining 24/7 then curiosities do now. You're completely neglecting the fact that it takes time for curios to tick.

The only way a town is getting rammed is if the village is completely retarded.

Well, correct me if I'm wrong but exploiting bots in w4 meant 8m lp a day. I'm pretty sure that even a very active character only attains ~1m lp a day if they're well developed. You can get higher if you've pushed quality and everything but it's a good amount of work and a lot of effort to push for better curiosities. Unless you're somehow pushing for a troll skull a day or whatever then your progress will be, likely quite literally, impossibly high.

Feeding alts shewbread doesn't give anywhere near as much and along with a few metal curios, I think that's the primary source lp for alt farms.
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Re: Lp debate

Postby bmjclark » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:52 am

Oh, and while ur camping the ram, the people are gonna spam alts at it and break it. So yes, it's completely impossible unless the town is dumb enough to leave a cornerpost unsealed.

Ya, i wasn't so sure about LP gains in world 4 as i was completely noob and didn't really know what was going on with botting till world 5 ;)
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Re: Lp debate

Postby inventer110 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:52 am

bmjclark wrote:Arrogance perhaps, but i still don't think im wrong ;)


ar·ro·gant
   [ar-uh-guhnt]
adjective
1.
making claims or pretensions to superior importance or rights; overbearingly assuming; insolently proud: an arrogant public official.

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Re: Lp debate

Postby TeckXKnight » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:54 am

bmjclark wrote:The fact that no one wants to camp a fucking ram for 24 hours?

This is a lie. Everyone has Tried to do it. It's fucking hard and tiring and you get harassed endlessly. By the end of it, if you didn't have twenty combatants surrounding it then just some alt would run up to it and break it. It's not as easy as getting one guy to sit there for 24 hours. You need a large village sitting there for 24 hours. Not even in shifts, just all of you on the entire time.
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Re: Lp debate

Postby inventer110 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:54 am

TeckXKnight wrote:
bmjclark wrote:Unless im mistaken, bots gained significantly more LP digging or mining 24/7 then curiosities do now. You're completely neglecting the fact that it takes time for curios to tick.

The only way a town is getting rammed is if the village is completely retarded.

Well, correct me if I'm wrong but exploiting bots in w4 meant 8m lp a day. I'm pretty sure that even a very active character only attains ~1m lp a day if they're well developed. You can get higher if you've pushed quality and everything but it's a good amount of work and a lot of effort to push for better curiosities. Unless you're somehow pushing for a troll skull a day or whatever then your progress will be, likely quite literally, impossibly high.

Feeding alts shewbread doesn't give anywhere near as much and along with a few metal curios, I think that's the primary source lp for alt farms.


I still think a compromise could be made such as, a simple bot prevention macro. not that hard to implement.
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Re: Lp debate

Postby bmjclark » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:55 am

Arrogant

Synonyms:
haughty - proud - conceited
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Re: Lp debate

Postby TeckXKnight » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:55 am

inventer110 wrote:I still think a compromise could be made such as, a simple bot prevention macro. not that hard to implement.

Sure, I'm listening.
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