Seperate forum for worthwhile ideas...

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Re: Seperate forum for worthwhile ideas...

Postby Chakravanti » Wed May 26, 2010 11:30 pm

Of course it would spawn such threads but the purpose of the 'secret' forum would be preserved because Jorb already admitted that such a forum is purely for his viewing pleasure anyway.

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Re: Seperate forum for worthwhile ideas...

Postby squfar » Thu May 27, 2010 1:13 am

The simple truth of the matter is that worthwhile ideas are entirely subjective. We are human beings, not a hivemind, our conscious wills and desires are not linked into one powerful being such as a Zerg overlord or the Borg queen or the Tyranid hivemind or any other countless tropes that refer to the lack of free will, as in all ideas come from one being and motivate the rest of the species to enact that being's will or what have you. Some people are naturally not as creative, or intelligent, or happy, or a myriad of other human qualities as others, so how would you even begin to define "worthwhile ideas"? As simple as having somebody like me around you have already created a condition in which no one idea is more potent or stronger than any other idea, save for the idea that all ideas are dumb or are at least made dumb when they are submitted to public domain due to man's nature to pervert and distort other's words and feelings for their own ends.

Policing and controlling a forum specifically made for "worthwhile ideas" is entirely bullshit and I can think of no simpler way of stating this. Firstly of course there is what I mentioned earlier in that everybody thinks their ideas are worthwhile, unless they have self-esteem issues I suppose, secondly how do you judge the value of an idea? Probably by the impact it has on society (or in this case the game community), well whose to say something stupid like pissing into wells wouldn't have as great an impact as something seemingly more valuable like changing or limiting strength values or some such so that people cant punch through palisades. What if everybody in the game decided that pissing into wells was the funnest pursuit of the game and this game just devolved into a well-pissing mmo? This is of course hyperbole, I am exaggerating to prove my point, the point being that there is no way to force everybody to agree what is a more worthwhile idea unless Jorb walked around in-game with a sword and a book forcing people to choose to believe in his ideas or death. MUCh like the conquistadors.

The point of this post is to disassemble and deconstruct the very notion of such a claim, forum for worthwhile ideas is not something I can stand behind because it is inherently a dumb idea, and debating it any further only fuels the idiocy. I have tried to cover a wide range of possibilities, and subsequently shoot them down, hopefully you can glean something meaningful from this post.
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Re: Seperate forum for worthwhile ideas...

Postby Blxz » Thu May 27, 2010 1:42 am

squfar wrote:Blah.

jeez dude. You say you can think of "no simpler way of stating this". Your wall of blah lost meaning in my mind part way through that, although I did force myself all the way through it. Big words don't make your post sound more intelligent and your repetition further detracted. Not to mention the almost essay like layout of your blah. I personally would appreciate if you would try and summarise your points a little better and more efficiently. I think you said some good stuff somewhere in there.
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Re: Seperate forum for worthwhile ideas...

Postby squfar » Thu May 27, 2010 1:51 am

Blxz wrote:
squfar wrote:Blah.

jeez dude. You say you can think of "no simpler way of stating this". Your wall of blah lost meaning in my mind part way through that, although I did force myself all the way through it. Big words don't make your post sound more intelligent and your repetition further detracted. Not to mention the almost essay like layout of your blah. I personally would appreciate if you would try and summarise your points a little better and more efficiently. I think you said some good stuff somewhere in there.

That is fine and I certainly agree with your point that simpler is easier to understand, though I don't particularly care for the personal attack that I made that post "to sound more intelligent". I couldn't give a fuck less if you think I'm intelligent or not, I know how small I am in comparison to the world. Hurt feelings aside I saw no other way to point out the glaring flaws I felt the OP contained than to go to the lengths I went to. My natural way of thinking compels me to explore every possible inclusion in any given idea before I can feel somewhat o.k. with my conclusions, and even then the conclusions must be harshly reviewed in a never-ending process of understanding the world around me.
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Re: Seperate forum for worthwhile ideas...

Postby Jackard » Thu May 27, 2010 1:51 am

brevity is not a sin

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Re: Seperate forum for worthwhile ideas...

Postby squfar » Thu May 27, 2010 1:53 am

Jackard wrote:brevity is not a sin

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Re: Seperate forum for worthwhile ideas...

Postby ViciousGamer04 » Thu May 27, 2010 9:14 pm

Eh. I like how people keep talking despite the fact that this was indirectly or I should say, will indirectly be resolved in a different sense that works for me.

it's also clear that a few of you don't understand the idea at all.
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