Thoughtful Criticism For The New LP System

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Re: Thoughtful Criticism For The New LP System

Postby Igglebert » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:59 pm

ITT: Butthurt noobs who cant grind LP to go out and murder noobs :lol:
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Re: Thoughtful Criticism For The New LP System

Postby Zampfeo » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:03 pm

Igglebert wrote:ITT: Butthurt noobs who cant grind LP to go out and murder noobs :lol:


More like butt hurt that someone who plays 10% of the time I do can have the same LP as I.
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Re: Thoughtful Criticism For The New LP System

Postby Potjeh » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:04 pm

Except they can't, since you have to play a lot to actually get any decent curiosities.
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Postby DaMaGe » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:11 pm

This is Brilliant. Thank you. This does 10 times more than all the trillions of whiny complaints combined :)
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Re: Thoughtful Criticism For The New LP System

Postby Zampfeo » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:13 pm

Potjeh wrote:Except they can't, since you have to play a lot to actually get any decent curiosities.


All have you have to do is log on every hour or so for a few minutes to put on a new ant or cow cone.
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Re: Thoughtful Criticism For The New LP System

Postby evilrich » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:16 pm

overlordror wrote:Jackard, if the devs are against banning then there really is no place for them to be developing an MMO (no matter how great the concept). Bad actions always have consequences and if Loftar & Jorb are not willing to take a stand against those who don't play without mechanical assistance, then the game is fundamentally flawed no matter what LP system is in place.

When Salem is fully developed you can bet your ass 100 percent that Paradox will enforce bans for anyone perceived as cheating the system.


so... blah blah blah winge winge. if u dont like the way the devs do it, go play another game?
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Re: Thoughtful Criticism For The New LP System

Postby Potjeh » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:18 pm

Zampfeo wrote:
Potjeh wrote:Except they can't, since you have to play a lot to actually get any decent curiosities.


All have you have to do is log on every hour or so for a few minutes to put on a new ant or cow cone.

And you actually think you can compete using such low tier curiosities? That's like using roast boar to compete against MBC.
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Re: Thoughtful Criticism For The New LP System

Postby LimaZulu » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:20 pm

Potjeh wrote:
Zampfeo wrote:
Potjeh wrote:Except they can't, since you have to play a lot to actually get any decent curiosities.


All have you have to do is log on every hour or so for a few minutes to put on a new ant or cow cone.

And you actually think you can compete using such low tier curiosities? That's like using roast boar to compete against MBC.


There is no need to compete in our great society.
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Re: Thoughtful Criticism For The New LP System

Postby Zampfeo » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:23 pm

Potjeh wrote:
Zampfeo wrote:
Potjeh wrote:Except they can't, since you have to play a lot to actually get any decent curiosities.


All have you have to do is log on every hour or so for a few minutes to put on a new ant or cow cone.

And you actually think you can compete using such low tier curiosities? That's like using roast boar to compete against MBC.


I'm talking about early game. Getting that high Q place claimed isn't about diligence anymore. It doesn't matter how long you're on or how hard you work.
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Re: Thoughtful Criticism For The New LP System

Postby dra6o0n » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:24 pm

Jackard's views are always one sided you noticed?

There is no such as as an absolute problem, that when fixed, will solve everything.
I see it as a magnitude size of combined problems, that unless fixed in a specific way, will regenerate and grow like bacteria.

Implementing the new lp system basically fixed one problem, and created another, as that's how the newton's laws of physics come into play.
For every action there is a equal or greater reaction.

Then now for the current system, we can use Murphy's law ("Whatever can happen, will happen") to say that the worst that haven't happen yet, will happen.
The LP system interesting for everyone, although having a big drawback, and some thinks it's not the worst that can happen. Touche to being hopeful, because the worst has yet to come.

The fact that this community is a 3 (If i were to say communities can be rated and policed up to 10 for the best) makes confronting the problem a bigger hassle than you might think. Yes short form is, the bad parts of the community will prevent the game from growing.

evilrich wrote:
overlordror wrote:Jackard, if the devs are against banning then there really is no place for them to be developing an MMO (no matter how great the concept). Bad actions always have consequences and if Loftar & Jorb are not willing to take a stand against those who don't play without mechanical assistance, then the game is fundamentally flawed no matter what LP system is in place.

When Salem is fully developed you can bet your ass 100 percent that Paradox will enforce bans for anyone perceived as cheating the system.


so... blah blah blah winge winge. if u dont like the way the devs do it, go play another game?

See what I mean? Thanks to this individual, that's one less player in the community, and while you might think that's a good thing, it is not because those that reads it will surely get pissed off and results in much more than one person being gone. It also deters more people to join the game because of word of mouth from those who had bad experiences with it.

Yes, the devs can focus on making better designs, but their willpower and devotion is based on the community's attention span, which seems to be dropping quickly.

You can't create a game for everyone, if everyone doesn't want to play it. You can't design and come up with creative innovation without other people.
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