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Re: Shovel

Postby Neruz » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:04 pm

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So what's the problem with having wooden and metal shovels again, with the wooden ones not being as good as the metal ones?


You want a wooden scythe too, huh? Seriously, stfu.


No, because a wooden scythe doesn't make any sense at all.

All you nubs want a cheap wooden variation of something you can already do by hand. And don't mention plowing because hand plowing really only exists to eat food rapidly.


Ploughing serves much more than that, it's needed for paving as well as for planting grass, not just food. And i would actually say ploughing is a good counterpoint; you can plough by hand, but it's slow and eats rediculous amounts of stamina. Or you can build a wooden plough, which is a little faster and eats substantially less stamina, or you can build a metal plough which is alot faster and eats almost no stamina at all.

What's wrong with applying the same concept to digging clay, considering the similarities and the logical sense it makes?


You really need to calm down and grow up, you'll find people respond better when you're not acting like a nine year old who's just discovered the world 'fuck'.
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Re: Shovel

Postby Chakravanti » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:05 pm

Chakravanti wrote:All you nubs want a cheap wooden variation of something you can already do by hand. And don't mention plowing because hand plowing really only exists to eat food rapidly.
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Re: Shovel

Postby Neruz » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:07 pm

Feel free to just not read other people's posts, you'd have to be pretty stupid to do that.
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Re: Shovel

Postby warrri » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:12 pm

Neruz wrote:
Chakravanti wrote:
Neruz wrote:
So what's the problem with having wooden and metal shovels again, with the wooden ones not being as good as the metal ones?


You want a wooden scythe too, huh? Seriously, stfu.


No, because a wooden scythe doesn't make any sense at all.

Okay im totally fine with wooden shovels. As long as they brake each 5 clay you dig. Because seriously, wood doesnt survive water long enough, unless its treatened with chemicals which we obviously dont have.
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Re: Shovel

Postby Neruz » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:14 pm

warrri wrote:Okay im totally fine with wooden shovels. As long as they brake each 5 clay you dig. Because seriously, wood doesnt survive water long enough, unless its treatened with chemicals which we obviously dont have.


Two questions have to be asked. The first is what the hell kind of wood are you using that rots away after 30 seconds in some water? The second is what on earth is the point of having a tool used to digging clay that only works 5 times? You'd spend more time and effort making shovels than you would if you just dug the clay by hand, rendering the tool useless.
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Re: Shovel

Postby Chakravanti » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:33 pm

Neruz wrote:Feel free to just not read other people's posts, you'd have to be pretty stupid to do that.

Take your own advice.
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warrri wrote:Okay im totally fine with wooden shovels. As long as they brake each 5 clay you dig. Because seriously, wood doesnt survive water long enough, unless its treatened with chemicals which we obviously dont have.


The second is what on earth is the point of having a tool used to digging clay that only works 5 times? You'd spend more time and effort making shovels than you would if you just dug the clay by hand, rendering the tool useless.

BINGO. You getting the point yet. NO WOODEN SHOVELS NUB.
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Re: Shovel

Postby Neruz » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:54 pm

And Chakravanti goes on ignore until he learns how to behave like an adult. Actually i'd settle for behaving like a human, instead of a monkey flinging poo all over his cage.
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Re: Shovel

Postby Chakravanti » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:55 pm

Personal insults don't make your point. Refusing to address the arguments we have made and then hypocritically accusing me of the same does not validate an argument that has already been countered.
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Re: Shovel

Postby Neruz » Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:05 pm

Good god, you are capable of making a post without using 'fuck' at least once in it somewhere. Remarkable.

You havn't countered any of my points Chak, so far your entire contribution to this thread has been to throw profanity around like a monkey throwing poo. Your 'counters' to my argument were, and i quote:

Chakravanti wrote:No that's LAME.


Very compelling.


In fact, the only human point you've made is that you think that the production of resources should cost resources, but that the gathering of resources should not cost resources. You do not, however, deign to tell us why you feel this way, or how this relates to the fact that one must make a bucket to 'gather' water for use, thus expending resources to 'gather' resources. (I assume by 'gather' you mean the acquisition of any resource that is in limitless supply.)
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Re: Shovel

Postby Chakravanti » Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:09 pm

Try as hard as you want to sound liek you know what you're talking about doesn't mean that you do. Also, You totally ignored my point about the economic impacts, probably because you don't understand them.

Also, buckets are not applicable. They are a one time expenditure versus the continual consumption that Warri proposed.

ALSO...Typically, in development and change arguments the status Quo does not have to be defended unless you make a blatant argument showing how you have abused it.
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