Cannibalism

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Re: Cannibalism

Postby Blaze » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:21 am

tp1212 wrote:Well, grinding up cows into cow food is a litte odd, as cows usually eat grass. And that raises the question, is it bad because it was cannibalism, or because it was just that eating meat is bad for plant eaters.


That's not it, eating the meat itself didn't cause the problem, it's that particular mutagenic protein that's IN infected meat. It's sorta like a protein-cancer, it replaces normal proteins with mutated ones.
Well obviously, fattening up cows by making them eat meat - cannibalism or otherwise - isn't good for them, but they're not particularly meant to live long anyway.
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Re: Cannibalism

Postby JTG » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:52 am

Its been a long time but said proteins just get produced in your brain, your brain has no way to remove proteins so they end up poking holes all over your brain and tearing it apart.
You basically have a massive amount of seizures, and you trip balls until you die.
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Re: Cannibalism

Postby Jackard » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:12 pm

Ferinex wrote:
Jackard wrote:
Ferinex wrote:Peter: Those diseases of which you speak could easily be tied to the fact that the people who engage in cannibalism live in the damned jungle and don't exactly consume a balanced diet. :3 That's like saying eating beef and cheese makes you fat. Everything is bad for you if not in moderation.

do you even look this stuff up before arguing it

Oh boy, a disease transmitted by eating dead people. As if there aren't disease transmitted by eating other dead animals. : ) You're getting no where.

"oh look an epidemic that subsides when cannibalism is outlawed YOU HAVE NO PROOF LOL

evolution is just a theory!!!"
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Re: Cannibalism

Postby Dondy » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:45 pm

RaptorJedi wrote:There was a scientific experiment done where someone ate parts of a person who died in an accident, and he said that it tasted like veal, and that most people would be unable to tell the difference.


TMI alert:

Human meat is closest to a cheaper cut of pork than anything else. The flesh is a little bit purplish as opposed to the red of beef and it is often thickly striated with yellowish fat. The thigh of an older human can be around forty percent fat. There is a lot higher fat percentage in a human than in a calf, again like cheap pork. And when you ignite it, it burns blue. Whan a human body is burned there is often a grease spot on the ground or the remains of the floor to show where the burning occurred. There may even be a puddle of tallow.

Heart is the second most dense muscle in the body. It therefore tends to require a lot of cooking before it is tender enough to be toothsome. However if you cooked and ate it immediately after death it would be more tender. The process of going through algor and rigor toughens it up considerably but also gives it more flavor. To get more flavor, subject your butchering subject to strenous exercise and fear immediately before killing him such as making him fight, rather than killing him when he is logged out. Medieval people used to torment cows and drive them in a paniced circle in a small enclosure before killing them so the meat would have more flavour without hanging it.
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Re: Cannibalism

Postby loftar » Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:05 pm

Jackard wrote:"oh look an epidemic that subsides when cannibalism is outlawed YOU HAVE NO PROOF LOL

evolution is just a theory!!!"

I think his point is, rather, that it happened in a tribe which compulsively ate every dead comrade in their entirety, and that if, say, farmers did the same by eating every cow or chicken that died on their farms wholly, then they'd probably not be very well off either.

It also seems to be more or less universally valid for all these prionic spongiform brain diseases like CJD or the mad cow disease, that they are caused, rather than by eating members of one's own species, by eating brain or other parts of the CNS, where the prions are accumulated. Remember that, although it was only a few cases, mad cow disease was certainly transferrable to humans, so it's not strictly an intra-species effect.
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Re: Cannibalism

Postby Raephire » Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:18 pm

It could also be that it has to do with the fact that they ate anyone who died from anything, be it disease or wound.
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Re: Cannibalism

Postby kimya » Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:20 pm

Dondy wrote: To get more flavor, subject your butchering subject to strenous exercise and fear immediately before killing him such as making him fight, rather than killing him when he is logged out.


this is correct for some animals, like dogs. but certainly not for cows or pig. its the other way round. it tastes worse if the animal had stress
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Re: Cannibalism

Postby Ferinex » Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:23 pm

loftar wrote:
Jackard wrote:"oh look an epidemic that subsides when cannibalism is outlawed YOU HAVE NO PROOF LOL

evolution is just a theory!!!"

I think his point is, rather, that it happened in a tribe which compulsively ate every dead comrade in their entirety, and that if, say, farmers did the same by eating every cow or chicken that died on their farms wholly, then they'd probably not be very well off either.

It also seems to be more or less universally valid for all these prionic spongiform brain diseases like CJD or the mad cow disease, that they are caused, rather than by eating members of one's own species, by eating brain or other parts of the CNS, where the prions are accumulated. Remember that, although it was only a few cases, mad cow disease was certainly transferrable to humans, so it's not strictly an intra-species effect.


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Re: Cannibalism

Postby ArPharazon » Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:14 am

Wait, so, is there any chance at all this could be implemented? I mean, think of all the cool balance features! If you grind your STR to kill everybody, you become a high value target, whereas low level players are not worth the effort because they are not very tasty. So strong players have incentive to attack stronger players, and stand to have very substantial gains if they win. Whereas there is very little reason to kill (and some reason not to kill, if human meat gave lots of black FEP) lots of low level characters.

And besides, you can't get more awesome than having a game where "you are what you eat" is a general strategy tip.
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