Boats

[Artemis0]

As long as solo players have some river-crossing options, that's OK.

It's called Drowning.

Fix'd

[57thDamned]

As long as solo players have some river-crossing options, that's OK.

What we need to go along with boats, of course, would be a sane world-gen system with a more natural system of rivers and rivers of varying widths- and let's not forget seas and oceans.

#2 This!

As long, as there are no connecitons between the rivers, boats are useless!

[Luke_Prowler]

I like the idea of a giant raft, like what they used way back then on the ol' Mississippi

[Laremere]

I think it would be nice to have a small canoe that is carved out of log the same way a quern is carved out of a boulder. But I agree with Yolan about the requirements for a major shipping boat.

[sami1337]

More than anything, I am concerned by the idea that we might end up with just little one man crafts that can store a couple of items. Yes, I think those are brilliant for crossing water, getting around, and heck, even trade. Two stowed chests can hold quite a few goodies.

But damnit, this is Haven and Hearth. Where are our longboats!!! ROAR!!!!

I mean, really, this new world is stupidly big, and save leaving porting as it is, we need decent sized boats that we can use to get goods where they need to go.

I think that the current rivers are wide enough to fit a smallish longboat, capable of carrying five or six people and a half dozen objects. I do think that building one of these babies should take quite a lot of skill and materials though, ditto with actually sailing it. Much more than building a log cabin. A longboat should be one of those things which really represents an achievement of co-operative craftsmanship and labour.

A log cabin obviously needs more wood. So it comes down to skill.
Or maybe not just skill, but also time.

[theTrav]

My home is ~10k tiles away from the RoB, so i have to wait 27k hours ( 3,5 years) before i relog?

Yes.

The idea being that you don't use relog to instantly teleport between your home a billion miles away and the RoB, but rather you use it to log at your village idol instead of your hearth fire when someone blocks you in...


If you chose to build your home a bazillion miles away and you want to go to the RoB then you should have to walk, or run, or ride or sail or whatever other means Loftar gives you, but just not magically appear there with all your stuff

[Peter]

There's no need to punish players for playing far away from the RoB.
I think that a merely liniear increase would be fine- remember, if they're going at a crawl speed they'd still have to be offline for hours in order to teleport from place to place.

[theTrav]

There's no need to punish players for playing far away from the RoB.

Is it really punishing to say that further away means more travel time?

I think that a merely liniear increase would be fine- remember, if they're going at a crawl speed they'd still have to be offline for hours in order to teleport from place to place.

the general idea was to make it the further you try to teleport, the harder it is. If it's linear and goes at crawl speed it's still going to be worth while to have an alt load up on stuff, then go offline for a day and deliver tomorrow. If it's a couple of weeks to a month, then it's probably not going to be worth using teleAlt.

basically the further you go away, the more valuable a teleport is, therefore a nonlinear punishment for trying to exploit teleports is required

[Jackard]

It's frankly a ridiculous suggestion, if you are going to give someone a cooldown that can possibly last weeks you might as well remove teleports altogether.

no doubt you'll think this is trolling though, blind as you are to your own faults

[Peter]

That's exactly my point, Jackard. You're still a troll, but you're right.