make brick walls able to make with bronze

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Re: make brick walls able to make with bronze

Postby sabinati » Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:30 pm

Lothaudus wrote:Yeah, make the Stone wall require Bronze for gates (and corner posts?).

And glue. Lots and lots of glue¹.

¹Okay, so maybe some kind of mortar substance so it's not griefed to buggery and back. Mortar == 1 Soil + 1 Clay + 2 Water. Clay is rare now so that, plus Bronze for cornerposts should prevent on the spot griefing.


probably sand instead of soil
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Re: make brick walls able to make with bronze

Postby arriel » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:13 pm

sabinati wrote:probably sand instead of soil


Or straw.
Sand is widely available on map; wheat needs some working on it.
If it is easier to make a stone wall than palisade (glue, leather, ropes), palisades will become obsolete right from the start. And I believe they should still stay newb`s first choice (maybe need to lower reqs for palisades, at least in ropes department).
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Re: make brick walls able to make with bronze

Postby Pacho » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:29 pm

why can't we just have pretty stone walls that are a simple step up from fences =[

I'm not talking about towering stone walls that would take a while to climb, but more of something around chest height made with stacked stones and maybe some mortar so it doesn't fall that easily.
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Re: make brick walls able to make with bronze

Postby sabinati » Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:33 am

a non-defensive wall then? maybe more resistant to decay than the roundpole fence, just requires more material to build? i'd like that, but i think a defensive stone wall should also be made.
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Re: make brick walls able to make with bronze

Postby Pacho » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:43 am

can't we just have both? kinda like in wurm =[
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Re: make brick walls able to make with bronze

Postby sabinati » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:06 am

that's what i'm saying
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Re: make brick walls able to make with bronze

Postby Pacho » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:16 am

I missed a key word while reading: also

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Re: make brick walls able to make with bronze

Postby sabinati » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:28 am

i still love you
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Re: make brick walls able to make with bronze

Postby niltrias » Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:32 am

I am not backing any of the particular ideas above, but a stone/bronze wall seems like it would fit quite well into the dev's ideas of multiple resource trees. Heck, you could even make it the strongest wall. Stone/bronze walls for best defence of claims and towns, Steel for best weapons and armor.

Stone walls seem somehow more...solid...than brick, regardless. The Krak des Chevaliers was not an exercise in terracotta.
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Re: make brick walls able to make with bronze

Postby Killface » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:18 am

Roundpole < Palisade < Stone Wall < Brick Wall

I had an idea before walls were buffed to reskin bricks with stone, and make the new bricks much much stronger.
Probably redundant, but do palisade walls really need to require a siege weapon to knock down?
Why not implement these wonderfully intelligent gentlemen's idea of stone walls, at the current palisade soak (?)
And reduce palisade soak to previous levels?

I only use the word "reskin" so people who previously built palisades for a specific level of protection don't all the sudden get left open to invasion.
They could log on the next day to new pretty stone walls.
Possibly even hide the .res image so that they cant be extracted and modified.
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