Skin colour

[Zigabogado]

If people don't like it when someone suggests the implementation of Mediterranean climatic and geographic elements, why are they racists when they reject different skin coloring?

The point of the suggestion is that, in a Eurocentric gaming world, it'd be a really inclusive thing to do this. The racism is systemic.
Here's the thing. I never actually accused anybody of being racists. You guys determined that one all by yourselves.
Guilty conscience much?

I think that "saying this will aggravate you" is more than enough reason in itself. You do appear to need a good trolling.

Not half as much as you obnoxious gamer geeks need a good checking of your privilige.

The reason this is hypocritical - Your little fanboys chuck a big tantrum at the IMAGINED suggestion that they 'are racists' as if you can only be a racist if your wearing a klan hood - and I'M the one who needs to lighten up and gain a sense of humour and stop taking things personally?

Your culture is an absolute fucking toiletbowl.

INSULTING LOFTAR? IN HIS GAME?
THIS IS MADNESS.

[SpiderJerusalem]

Your culture is an absolute fucking toiletbowl.

thats racist!I should call some human rights organization or something!

you are just butthurt.most answers to your suggestion were polite but you won't accept the fact that it doesn't fit the setting and most people wouldn't like it.and now you try to explain jorb&loftar how their game should be like...

[Breon]

ITT:
- non-caucasian is butthurt over their pixel blob being peach instead of tan, feels that J&L should spend their limited development time rectifying this grievous injustice (rather than, say, creating a new combat system / improving the mapgen / replacing the LP system / etc)
- people explain why this should be a non-issue
- 8 pages of the same people saying the same crap over and over
- loftar lays down the law
- some heretics question J&L's divinity (tomorrow's forecast: fire and brimstone)
- another page of the same people saying the same crap over and over
- something about cultures growing in toiletbowls...not sure, but sounds highly unsanitary

did I miss anything?

[SpiderJerusalem]

ITT:
- non-caucasian is butthurt over their pixel blob being peach instead of tan, feels that J&L should spend their limited development time rectifying this grievous injustice (rather than, say, creating a new combat system / improving the mapgen / replacing the LP system / etc)
- people explain why this should be a non-issue
- 8 pages of the same people saying the same crap over and over
- loftar lays down the law
- some heretics question J&L's divinity (tomorrow's forecast: fire and brimstone)
- another page of the same people saying the same crap over and over
- something about cultures growing in toiletbowls...not sure, but sounds highly unsanitary

did I miss anything?

nope.you got everything in this thread

[Gavla]

Should brown-haired people whine that males are blond and females redheads now?

Are you suggesting that having different coloured hair is a similar experience to having different skin tone? What sort of sheltered life do you live?

you are just butthurt.most answers to your suggestion were polite.

You think that was polite? You're dreaming!
Polite means respectful, not 'at least it's better than 4chan'

If you really think that my point, and the community reaction to it, is the sort of petty squabble that people get unreasonably-amusingly upset about to be 'butthurt' and not a serious matter and a deeply problematic response, even after all my attempts to explain...

There's nothing I can do to possibly explain to make you see things in perspective.

now you try to explain jorb&loftar how their game should be like...

He can run his game however he fucking wants. I'm not the government - I can't compel or silence or censor anyone.

But is it totally inconcievable that I might have an experience, insight, or suggestion that lies somewhere outside of what's been considered by him and in his forum before? It's not exactly internet transhighway one in here. That's why there's a suggestion forum. Yeah, I'm telling Loftar how his game should be if he should wish to expand the appeal a little. It's called engaging in an argument - something you have a lot to learn about if you think there's ever a point to saying "You're just butthurt"

TBH I thought he'd have considered this and take the suggestion as an indicator that his game, despite being alpha, was reaching a stage where perhaps this should be implemented. Thought he might have read something about game design which explains why EVERY OTHER roleplaying game has this feature.

But I guess it's all the others who are wrong. I forgot the way developers become these sort of deities on their own messageboards. Very disappointed that someone who, at least on his other game, should know something about being a professional is encouraging this sort of stuff.

[Gavla]

ITT:
- non-caucasian is butthurt over their pixel blob being peach instead of tan, feels that J&L should spend their limited development time rectifying this grievous injustice (rather than, say, creating a new combat system / improving the mapgen / replacing the LP system / etc)
- people explain why this should be a non-issue
- 8 pages of the same people saying the same crap over and over
- loftar lays down the law
- some heretics question J&L's divinity (tomorrow's forecast: fire and brimstone)
- another page of the same people saying the same crap over and over
- something about cultures growing in toiletbowls...not sure, but sounds highly unsanitary

did I miss anything?

You forgot the part at the end where self-righteous arrogant turds come in and try to score petty 'zinger' points by gloating with their friends and pile into some big circle jerk of self-congratulatory posts.

[Jackard]

- some heretics question J&L's divinity (tomorrow's forecast: fire and brimstone)

this is fawning and kind of gross, thats not how things are run here


if you are into idolatry, the bay12 forums are that way ----> http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/

[SpiderJerusalem]

gavla.you suggested something.a lot of people, including the dev disagreed.you don't accept it.thats pretty butthurt in my opinion.


btw if you were white your suggestion would have been different.if you just wanted to play a non-white person for fun I could understand it, although it still wouldn't fit.

but you don't want to play a white person because you aren't white and thats something I can't understand

[Breon]

You forgot the part at the end where self-righteous arrogant turds come in and try to score petty 'zinger' points by gloating with their friends and pile into some big circle jerk of self-congratulatory posts.

Yes, that is the way you win people over to your point of view...
Up until your last few posts, I felt you had a valid point (general character customization). My only difference of opinion was in the urgency. You seemed to be saying it was a vital issue which should be addressed immediately rather than something to be looked at once all the gameplay mechanics were ironed out. But when someone resorts to the sort of derogatory comments seen in your last few posts, serious discourse is rather pointless.

this is fawning and kind of gross, thats not how things are run here

Yeah, I realize now I didn't make it obvious enough that one was meant as /sarc

[Cajoes]

- some heretics question J&L's divinity (tomorrow's forecast: fire and brimstone)

this is fawning and kind of gross, thats not how things are run here

if you are into idolatry, the bay12 forums are that way ----> http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/

Oh Jackard, you card. Ho ho.

*pulls lever*